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7D for the only the pros?

 
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Aug 12, 2010 21:43 |  #31

No Pro here, I went from a 40D to a 1D mark IIn to a Mark III.
Do you have to be a pro golfer to have the best clubs?
Do you have to be a pro Tennis player to have a nice racket?
DO you have to be a pro fisherman to have the best boat and tackle?
Do you have to be a pro biker to have the best bike?
Do you have to......... well you get the point!
Buy what you can afford and what you want

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Aug 12, 2010 22:32 |  #32

Fedxpress wrote in post #10711818 (external link)
Buy what you can afford and what you want

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Yea!

And do you have to be a race car driver to own a 430 scud?! No sir!


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Aug 13, 2010 00:33 |  #33

7D is for the "rich" who can afford it. You can be an enthusiast and still be able to enjoy it.

Consider this example:
A future driver drives a Lexus LFA (external link). It's a fast car (I hope everyone agrees lol) however, the driver doesn't always have to speed to enjoy it.

::rethinks::

ok ok... bad example.. lol

I think you get the idea.


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Aug 13, 2010 07:32 as a reply to  @ turkleten's post |  #34

Dj R wrote in post #10712074 (external link)
And do you have to be a race car driver to own a 430 scud?! No sir!

no, but should you at least track it occasionally and not make it a garage queen?


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Aug 13, 2010 07:37 |  #35

I'm a pro and I have one, but it doesn't mean anything except it's a great camera. Buy what you want and can afford. I may decide tomorrow to stop shooting pro, but I'd keep it anyway.


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Aug 13, 2010 07:44 as a reply to  @ SuzyView's post |  #36

BH/DW and I both have 7Ds...because photography means so much to us. In fact we did a quick field trip yesterday with them. Great cameras!!!

As for kit lenses....only if that is the only way to afford some glass to shoot with initially. But you can do much better with other choices.




  
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Aug 13, 2010 09:01 |  #37

Buying glass instead of the 7d is really what I'm on the fence about. But I figure I would rent lens when I go on trips and stuff and then learn the 7d with the kit lens, 50, and ultra wide angle...

2k is just soooo much money. I def cant afford it cause I could find plenty of places that money should be spent on




  
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Aug 13, 2010 09:50 |  #38

yeffpicme wrote in post #10714131 (external link)
Buying glass instead of the 7d is really what I'm on the fence about. But I figure I would rent lens when I go on trips and stuff and then learn the 7d with the kit lens, 50, and ultra wide angle...


Can you expand on what the limitations of your shooting are? This helps us to help you find whether glass, or upgrading the body is a better investment.

Some things to think about:
1. Do you find things are too far away? - Longer glass is needed more than new body
2. Do you find you can't get everything in the shot? Wider Glass is needed.
3. You are shooting fast moving things, and you don't have enough time to get the shots you need. Body Upgrade to get higher fps
4. Shooting fast moving things, get enough shots in, but not well focused. Body Upgrade to get better AutoFocus system
5. Currently shooting low light situations, but shutter speed is too slow. This one is tricky, as it can be solved in two ways - faster glass to let in more light (But shallower DOF), or body upgrade to give higher ISO (and better high iso quality).
6. Photos aren't sharp enough. this one is a can of worms, and we'd probably need to see photos to work out what the issue is (might be user error, subject movement, misfocus, bad lense, bad body).

yeffpicme wrote in post #10714131 (external link)
2k is just soooo much money. I def cant afford it cause I could find plenty of places that money should be spent on

In which case - if you can't afford, you can't afford. 2K for a piece of kit is a lot of money to most people (myself included). The XSI is still a very good camera. Perhaps waiting and saving towards it more, may allow you to work out whether glass, or 7D is the better investment.

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Aug 13, 2010 10:06 |  #39

No camera is ONLY for Pros.


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Aug 13, 2010 10:39 as a reply to  @ alpha_1976's post |  #40

No camera is ONLY for Pros.

Well said. B&H did not want to see my pro business license to sell us the bodies. ;)

Those you can afford more expensive equipment should be thankful. Those that can not should be grateful others do it. It is the pressure on the higher end equipment to delivery more (quality, features) for less....that allows such things as advanced AF to trickle down to less expensive camera bodies. We all end with competition on the high end does trickle down.

Let us all be thankful we can afford ANY DSLR in this economy!!!!




  
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Aug 13, 2010 11:07 |  #41

Some things to think about:
1. Do you find things are too far away? - Longer glass is needed more than new body
2. Do you find you can't get everything in the shot? Wider Glass is needed.
3. You are shooting fast moving things, and you don't have enough time to get the shots you need. Body Upgrade to get higher fps
4. Shooting fast moving things, get enough shots in, but not well focused. Body Upgrade to get better AutoFocus system
5. Currently shooting low light situations, but shutter speed is too slow. This one is tricky, as it can be solved in two ways - faster glass to let in more light (But shallower DOF), or body upgrade to give higher ISO (and better high iso quality).
6. Photos aren't sharp enough. this one is a can of worms, and we'd probably need to see photos to work out what the issue is (might be user error, subject movement, misfocus, bad lense, bad body).

I like you you asked some questions help me come to a conclusion on whats really important here.

1. I have a zoom lens 55-200 its the basic Canon that came with my XSI
2. I did get a Sigma 10mm-20mm to take those wide angle shots which are my fav to take
3. I do get annoyed when I cant take pics of animals moving ie. I practice on squirels
4. The moving objects always look blurry. (I thought this was a function of the glass taking shots at f/4-5.6
5. I got a flash for low light and that helps. But sometimes I take pics at night of cars and hate using a flash and like the higher ISO but dont like the grainy aspect.
6. My pics can always be sharped. I need to learn to use a tripod because I think the blurryness comes from me moving my camera when I use say f/8 and the shutter is at 1/60- 1 second.

Thanks for those questions. I hope the answers shed more light on my and peoples situations when they upgrade from an XSI to a 7D.




  
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Aug 13, 2010 11:22 |  #42

So I guess we can have an 1D PRO body and not be a pro photog, while some pro photog's have the
7D and do PRO work for a living...right.?
I have the 40D & 50D and thinking about upgrading...to 1dmkiii or 7D.. so far my 40 and 50 has made me enough money to upgrade..
but which new body..???

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Aug 13, 2010 11:27 |  #43

Put a 5d, 5dmkII, 7d, 1dsmkIII, 1dmkIII on print. Without having a reference of the prints by comparing the bodies I think majority will be pleased. On the computer screen you will see the diff but the "client/family" getting prints probably cant tell the diff.

Now the question is MP. Lotsa megapixel may help the photog crop more to get a desired composition that was not done when the shutter button was pressed.

A decent body and a great photographer will create wonderful captures. Throw some money at the camera store and buy whatever you like pro or not. I'm a hobbyist that spends hard earned money at a hobby. Memorable photos that i've taken of loved ones that are now gone has put a new perspective in my life. Photography to me is now very important.

The features of the 7d with low noise at high ISO is desired by anyone in the dslr world.


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Aug 13, 2010 11:32 |  #44

AlanU,

Amen to that...The features of the 7d with low noise at high ISO is desired by anyone in the dslr world. How does your 1dmkiii handle low noise and high iso.? see my post above yours..

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Aug 13, 2010 13:00 |  #45

AlanU wrote in post #10714829 (external link)
Now the question is MP. Lotsa megapixel may help the photog crop more to get a desired composition that was not done when the shutter button was pressed.


The features of the 7d with low noise at high ISO is desired by anyone in the dslr world.

Good point.


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