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Aug 15, 2010 21:51 |  #1

Am thinking I may need a mid range telephoto...but want a macro too....can only buy one...SO...on a 7D....would the new 100 f2.8IS II Macro serve both purposes? Or should i stop being obstinate and start saving for the new 70-200 f2.8IS II?

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Aug 15, 2010 21:55 |  #2

I use the 100L 2.8 IS for both macro and telephoto. Its a phenomenal lens! Only you can decide whether or not you need a zoom, and whether it should be the 70-200 2.8 II


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Aug 16, 2010 01:15 |  #3

Do you like working with primes? Do you often shoot in the 101-200mm range?

A 100L won't give you the flexibility of a zoom, but will give you excellent macro and tele capabilities at 100mm. Another option might be the 135L with a x1.4 TC and extension tubes, that is if you don't mind using primes.


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Aug 16, 2010 01:42 |  #4

why did u sell the 70-200 f4? what was it not doing for you? Im just asking this to understand what you need/want in a new lens. if you shoot sports the 70-200 2.8 non IS, is the best bang for buck. You might want to look for a used 70-200 2.8 IS mk I if you shoot low light venues, if you do portraits, primes are your best bet as you dont always need the flexibility of a zoom. im not sure if the macro 100 2.8 is the most versatile option imho, i mean its pretty sharp, but the 70-200s are just as sharp and similar price. the only thing you dont have is macro. Macro is a speciality lens sort of like ultra wide angles or fish eye more so, unless u specifically shoot subjects close up that requires macro, it will one of those features you dont use.


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Aug 16, 2010 03:21 |  #5

What about the 135 f/2L?

Sacrificing the macro, but makes a great portrait lens.


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Aug 16, 2010 03:38 |  #6

Canon 100 F/2.8 or Sigma 150 F/2.8, depending on the focal length you want, if you want to combine into a single lens.

You say you "may need a mid range telephoto", what for?




  
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Aug 16, 2010 19:46 |  #7

Camera Nerd wrote in post #10729294 (external link)
why did u sell the 70-200 f4? what was it not doing for you? Im just asking this to understand what you need/want in a new lens. if you shoot sports the 70-200 2.8 non IS, is the best bang for buck. You might want to look for a used 70-200 2.8 IS mk I if you shoot low light venues, if you do portraits, primes are your best bet as you dont always need the flexibility of a zoom. im not sure if the macro 100 2.8 is the most versatile option imho, i mean its pretty sharp, but the 70-200s are just as sharp and similar price. the only thing you dont have is macro. Macro is a speciality lens sort of like ultra wide angles or fish eye more so, unless u specifically shoot subjects close up that requires macro, it will one of those features you dont use.

Thanks for the replies all...most helpful.

I sold the 70-200 f4L because it wasn't making it out of the gear bag that much at all...It was an awesome lens...but it needed a better home than inside a gear bag...it needed USE! I sold it for what i paid for it and used those funds to reinvest in the 50 and 85..

I need low light lenses now (live music photography and portraits/weddings) hence, my recent aquisition of the 85 f/1.8 and the 50 f/1.4. I guess for me the biggest question was how the 100 f/2.8 Macro would work as a 160 mm equivalent stabilized telephoto....with the added bonus of macro-ability...

It would definitely save me the hassle of having to look for a dedicated macro later on if that suddenly struck my fancy...

I can get the Macro 100 f/2.8L IS II for $1400 (CAD) AND the 200 mm f/2.8L II for another $1000 (CAD) versus almost 3,000 (CAD) for the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II?

Or am I crazy?

Hmmmmm what to do!!!


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Aug 16, 2010 19:52 |  #8

Goffer33 wrote in post #10734185 (external link)
Thanks for the replies all...most helpful.

I sold the 70-200 f4L because it wasn't making it out of the gear bag that much at all...It was an awesome lens...but it needed a better home than inside a gear bag...it needed USE! I sold it for what i paid for it and used those funds to reinvest in the 50 and 85..

I need low light lenses now (live music photography and portraits/weddings) hence, my recent aquisition of the 85 f/1.8 and the 50 f/1.4. I guess for me the biggest question was how the 100 f/2.8 Macro would work as a 160 mm equivalent stabilized telephoto....with the added bonus of macro-ability...

It would definitely save me the hassle of having to look for a dedicated macro later on if that suddenly struck my fancy...

I can get the Macro 100 f/2.8L IS II for $1400 (CAD) AND the 200 mm f/2.8L II for another $1000 (CAD) versus almost 3,000 (CAD) for the 70-200 f/2.8L IS II?

Or am I crazy?

Hmmmmm what to do!!!

try a used 70-200 2.8 is mk I, or even a NON IS 70-200 2.8, or even the sigma 70-200 2.8 and 135 L


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Aug 16, 2010 23:55 |  #9

70-200 2.8 IS mkI at the least. Music and events would really be great w/ the 2.8 IS. Save for that... But the IQ of the mkII is amazing. You can really tell the difference... Sorry for throwing a wrench in the decision making


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Aug 16, 2010 23:56 |  #10

100L is what I went with, but only because I couldn't afford to step up to the 70-200 2.8IS II any time soon. I find the IS invaluable, macro ability is great, it's ridiculously sharp.

I'd say buy the 100L (used, if you can/want to) test drive it out, if you find yourself wanting a zoom, start saving for the 70-200 and get it as soon as you can, then just pick up the 100 non L for macro.


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Aug 17, 2010 00:26 |  #11

shmoogy wrote in post #10735493 (external link)
100L is what I went with, but only because I couldn't afford to step up to the 70-200 2.8IS II any time soon. I find the IS invaluable, macro ability is great, it's ridiculously sharp.

I'd say buy the 100L (used, if you can/want to) test drive it out, if you find yourself wanting a zoom, start saving for the 70-200 and get it as soon as you can, then just pick up the 100 non L for macro.

Thanks,

I think that's the route I will go....


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Aug 17, 2010 01:16 |  #12

Order the 100 from BH. Even with the exchange and taxes you save almost $400. Pick up a used 200 on craigslist usually around $700.


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Aug 17, 2010 02:50 |  #13

If the 100mm satisfies your need for mid telephoto, wouldn't the 85mm you own already be pretty much long enough?


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Aug 17, 2010 10:49 |  #14

tkbslc wrote in post #10736056 (external link)
If the 100mm satisfies your need for mid telephoto, wouldn't the 85mm you own already be pretty much long enough?

You would think so, but I hate having to crop....The position I'm put in at many live shows is where the 85 is just not quite enough length...and a 100 would be perfect...

I am still leaning towards picking up the 100 L Macro and a 200L 2.8 and being done with it!


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Aug 17, 2010 20:43 |  #15

Goffer33 wrote in post #10737686 (external link)
You would think so, but I hate having to crop....The position I'm put in at many live shows is where the 85 is just not quite enough length...and a 100 would be perfect...

I am still leaning towards picking up the 100 L Macro and a 200L 2.8 and being done with it!

Toss in a 135 2.0L (faster lens) and then be done:D


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