TR Photography - 2011 Seniors (part 6)

Girl session from yesterday and guy session from today today.

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The pose in the first one is seriously unflattering. That combined with the overprocessed skin ruins this photo in my opinion. It gives off, if not a visual representation, then a psychological impression of trying to cover up her face with processing. Look into some better techniques, like high passing, noise texture, and other more realistic ways of softening skin as to not make it look like you're putting a mask of blur over their face.

Really nice lighting but think the first pose isn't all that great. She looks very uncomfortable and has an awkward facial expression. Second photo i think could have used a tighter crop in my honest opinion as well as a second fill light for the right side of his face. I really like the last one but i think the crop is unbalanced and that you should have put his body more to the left side of the frame with the pose. Nice series but with some minor adjustments it could have been GREAT! keep it and and keep posting!

It may just be me, but I do see texture in the face of #1, and think you have done a real good job. There are so many opinions and techniques to soften skin. Who cares how you do it, as long as it look right in the end. I have read books, articles, and forum posts on "how to", and most of the time they contradict each other. The minute you try someone's technique, somebody else will say you should have done it a different way.

The pose? I'm not so sure about, but if you never try it you'll never know if it works or not...right?

This pose is a classic modeling pose.. if you go thru any fashion mag... you will find such a pose..

"looking over a shoulder, and the hand on top with the pit facing away from the lens.."

posing is so subjective and it is more art.. some like it some dont

It may be a cliche' fashion pose, but for very skinny girls who know how to do it right. Doing it on anybody above anorexia comes out unflattering. Think about it, you're squeezing all the facial fat/skin into a smaller area than it would usually be, hence creating a very unflattering facial shot. That and the fact that she just looks really uncomfortable, like saying "how much longer do I need to do this for?". And DW-Digi, it's not about using someones else's technique, it's about developing a way to remove skin blemishes, accentuate curvature and remain some realistic texture (pores etc.). The only texture in that shot is in her hair, which is oversharpened. Also her eyes look like they've been gone over with white-out. All i'm saying is that your processing needs a really good look over - perhaps try concentrating on makeup more, that way you won't have to use as much processing to get the look you want.

Agnu wrote in post #10735530
...And DW-Digi, it's not about using someones else's technique, it's about developing a way to remove skin blemishes, accentuate curvature and remain some realistic texture (pores etc.)....

I totally agree, but, for those of us that are new at this, we rely heavily on the influence of others to lead us in the right direction until we decide which techniques will be the foundation of our own developing method.

you do realize these are high school seniors and not anorexic fashion models. these kids see stuff in magazines, on top model ( especially the girls ) and want to come in and try the look. I see nothing wrong with it at all. Perhaps she had blemished skin and a little more smoothing was needed, perhaps ( and it is ) the trend with the younger girls that like the skin a little more smoother than you and i would like it,,,,,,so many variables to consider before jumping on someone like Tony and telling him to work on his PP techniques. He is one of the very best around. I see your site is under construction so none of us can see what the experts from down under are doing with high school seniors,HOWEVER, from what i can read into this, you sound like your into High fashion modeling, which is an entirely different animal than High School seniors......just my .02 cents.

Tony nice work as usual. You always do fantastic work, pose works for me and please contribute to the HS senior post. We are trying to set it up as a more educational post to help everyone out and give those coming into the business a good foundation to do HS seniors.

Agnu-- not trying to put you down at all. These are HS seniors not fashion models. I might have said her skin looks a little to smooth for my taste ( which it is not ) or something a little less direct-- thats all. dont read anything more into this----Mike

Agnu wrote in post #10735530
It may be a cliche' fashion pose, but for very skinny girls who know how to do it right. Doing it on anybody above anorexia comes out unflattering. Think about it, you're squeezing all the facial fat/skin into a smaller area than it would usually be, hence creating a very unflattering facial shot. That and the fact that she just looks really uncomfortable, like saying "how much longer do I need to do this for?". And DW-Digi, it's not about using someones else's technique, it's about developing a way to remove skin blemishes, accentuate curvature and remain some realistic texture (pores etc.). The only texture in that shot is in her hair, which is oversharpened. Also her eyes look like they've been gone over with white-out. All i'm saying is that your processing needs a really good look over - perhaps try concentrating on makeup more, that way you won't have to use as much processing to get the look you want.

Agree with the unflattering pose in no. 1. It draws attention to her thick arms. It looks like she is trying to do something creative and that attempt draws more attention than it should.

Cool discussion... believe it could spin off into a whole other topic involving the senior market. We post hear simply to show some of our current work and provide any, if any, inspiration. In our area, seniors know how we shoot and process. For this reason they come to us. Agnu, your comments are heard and respected. Although, your not the first to say we overprocess... For better or worse it is our style.

Typically we spend no more than 2-3 min. on an image. We do use Portriature and yes we do highlight the eyes. For those interested in the sooc compared to the finished shot:
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You do great stuff Tony. Thanks for sharing. It's fellow photogs like you and Pham that make this forum a learning experience.

I'm not a portrait photographer and have no idea how to process but I just wanted to say I have admired your work from day one when I saw it. The pose of the girl is not one I would choose to do but I think it worked none the less. It draws your attention to what girls like to show. Their pretty faces and also their hands/nails. Great job on the guy also.

Keep sharing. You give a lot of people inspiration!

I love the second shot of the guy with the pink sky in the background. The rule of thirds may help with composition. Otherwise, good work.

I think these are great!!!!

great stuff!