eskerman Mostly Lurking  13 posts Joined Oct 2009 Location: Ireland More info | Aug 14, 2010 15:24 | #1 I am looking for an off camera flash bracket and the Manfrotto MN 233b looks like a decent bit of kit that seems to have room for my 580 ex 2... 40D---70/200 USM/IS f2.8---12/24 f/4 Tokina---50mm/f1.4--Sekonic/L358---580EZ/2---Interfit various studio modeling lights.
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DaveG Goldmember 2,040 posts Likes: 1 Joined Aug 2003 Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia More info | Aug 18, 2010 16:40 | #2 99% of the reason that I use a bracket is to keep the flash directly over the lens in both vertical and horizontal shooting positions. When the flash is over the lens the shadow falls directly behind the subject and I avoid horrible (and to me the sign of an amateur) side shadow. When you place the flash in a hotshoe you will achieve this effect when you shoot horizontally but will get side shadow for verticals. The MN 233B looks like it's going to give you side shadow in BOTH V & H positioning and other than curing (perhaps) some red eye, it is to me a complete waste of money. "There's never time to do it right. But there's always time to do it over."
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gonzogolf dumb remark memorialized More info | Aug 18, 2010 16:41 | #3 Get a bracket that allows the camera to rotate while the flash remains above the lens.
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bobbyz Cream of the Crop 20,506 posts Likes: 3479 Joined Nov 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA More info | Aug 18, 2010 17:51 | #4 I am going to b ebuying 223 to use at night time football. It puts the flash pretty high compared to other brackets. Not sure of the side shadow thing, isn't OCF put flash on the side not on top of the lens? Fuji XT-1, 18-55mm
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tim Light Bringer  51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Aug 18, 2010 19:56 | #5 Off camera flash bracket makes no sense. You want an umbrella bracket, or something like that, to attach your flash to a light stand or tripod. There are also other things that will let you attach the flash or umbrella bracket to other things, like ceiling beams, etc. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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pnmd Goldmember  1,852 posts Likes: 7 Joined Dec 2007 More info | got 233B to use with my Quadra recently. 233B can extend up and outwards. In terms of positioning it can approximate where my beauty dish on a stand would be. It's not like side shadow from on camera flash when you turn the camera to portrait mode. Like most Manfrotto products, it's sturdy and well built. I plan on using it only when a stand is not convenient. And at $64 it's cheaper than most brackets, more versatile IMO, very lightweight and collapses to 12"  Peter
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bobbyz Cream of the Crop 20,506 posts Likes: 3479 Joined Nov 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA More info | Aug 18, 2010 21:36 | #7 Peter, looks very nice. Fuji XT-1, 18-55mm
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ben_r_ -POTN's Three legged Support-  15,894 posts Likes: 13 Joined Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA More info | Aug 19, 2010 11:48 | #8 FWIW its worth, this is what I went with: LINK [Gear List | Flickr
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tim Light Bringer 51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Aug 19, 2010 16:22 | #9 That's a flash bracket... not an off camera flash bracket... probably because I don't know what an OFCB is! Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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ben_r_ -POTN's Three legged Support- 15,894 posts Likes: 13 Joined Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA More info | Aug 19, 2010 16:23 | #10 tim wrote in post #10752361  That's a flash bracket... not an off camera flash bracket... probably because I don't know what an OFCB is! Oh, I GET what you mean now! Sorry, yea what I posted before it a different kind of setup. Sorry. [Gear List | Flickr
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Harleypugs I love camera porn.....makes me hawt.... ;-)  More info | Sep 15, 2010 15:08 | #11 I have this set up too...love it. 5dMKIII/grip - 24-105 4.0 IS
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RPCrowe Cream of the Crop  More info | Good news and bad news...  However, for keeping the flash over the lens in both vertical and horizontal camera positions, there is nothing like a camera flip bracket from Stroboframe or a Chinese Knock-Off of the Stroboframe. http://cgi.ebay.com …ories&hash=item45f5450e1c IMO, camera flip brackets are superior to flash flip brackets when using bounce flash because with the camera flip bracket, the flash is always pointing in the correct direction. See my images at http://rpcrowe.smugmug.com/
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bobbyz Cream of the Crop 20,506 posts Likes: 3479 Joined Nov 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA More info | Sep 15, 2010 15:28 | #13 Got my 223B and it seems quite nice. Put flash quite high. I even tried my cheap ebay 20" softbox mounted to it. I connected the bracket to the L bracket on my 1dmk2. And then moved it at 45 deg. away from my shooting position. With the ball head on the softbox, I could put it some what away from me and higher, like you when using off camera flash. It can make a nice setup for event kind of shots where you can't bounce. Fuji XT-1, 18-55mm
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Sep 15, 2010 22:00 | #14 I have been researching for about a week. I am leaning towards the Newton Di100FR2. There is a good video of it's operation. The photographer and the Nikon camera aside that is. Clarke Moffitt Photography
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Sep 15, 2010 22:09 | #15 RPCrowe- I just looked up the Stroboframe Camera Flip. Seems very handy. Do you know if you can mount with battery grip attached? The video I saw seemed it would be really close in Portrait mode. Clarke Moffitt Photography
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