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Aug 20, 2010 00:19 |  #1

go easy.. im still learning

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Aug 20, 2010 00:39 |  #2

You had some nice light on the last one. If you want to take a critique, I'd say the first three need to be straighten first. Also, all are possibly about 1 stop underexposed. I wish you included something in the foreground for a little better composition. Did you use any ND filters?
A lot of potential there, nevertheless. You're close, keep at it. :)


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Aug 20, 2010 00:40 |  #3

i like the last one alot. wish it had a bit more color in it. the bottom half is a bit boring.


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Aug 20, 2010 00:56 |  #4

et078 wrote in post #10754852 (external link)
You had some nice light on the last one. If you want to take a critique, I'd say the first three need to be straighten first. Also, all are possibly about 1 stop underexposed. I wish you included something in the foreground for a little better composition. Did you use any ND filters?
A lot of potential there, nevertheless. You're close, keep at it. :)

thanks for the critique

nope, i dont own any ND filters.
i shot all 4 pics 1/3-2/3 overexposed
then brought the brightness down and contrast up amongst other sliders in PP
is this bad technique?


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Aug 20, 2010 01:20 |  #5

phant0mv87 wrote in post #10754905 (external link)
i shot all 4 pics 1/3-2/3 overexposed
then brought the brightness down and contrast up amongst other sliders in PP
is this bad technique?

Not necessarily if you are shooting RAW. I would still try without exposure compensation, and see what it looks like. ND filters would help here as you get an uneven light. Background has naturally more light and the best way to compensate is by using 2 or 3 stop gradual ND filters. Also, as I mentioned in my previous post, try to put something in the foreground (rock, log,...), it will make a composition much better.


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Aug 20, 2010 01:25 as a reply to  @ et078's post |  #6

What program are you using for PP?


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Aug 20, 2010 01:30 |  #7

lightroom 2. and yes, shot in raw


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Aug 20, 2010 01:33 as a reply to  @ phant0mv87's post |  #8

Perfect; use the Graduated Filter tool to preserve some color and detail in the foreground on number 3, while still keeping that cool-ass sky.

As the others said, it would be interesting to see the original file for that one.


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Aug 20, 2010 01:33 |  #9

et078 wrote in post #10754983 (external link)
Not necessarily if you are shooting RAW. I would still try without exposure compensation, and see what it looks like. ND filters would help here as you get an uneven light. Background has naturally more light and the best way to compensate is by using 2 or 3 stop gradual ND filters. Also, as I mentioned in my previous post, try to put something in the foreground (rock, log,...), it will make a composition much better.

ahh. i keep reading about this online and whatnot
just haven't been able to apply it while shooting
i guess it'll take a while to have an eye for such things?


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Aug 20, 2010 01:43 |  #10

phant0mv87 wrote in post #10755041 (external link)
ahh. i keep reading about this online and whatnot
just haven't been able to apply it while shooting
i guess it'll take a while to have an eye for such things?

It takes some practice and experimenting. Have fun! :)


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Aug 20, 2010 01:56 |  #11

Snydremark wrote in post #10755038 (external link)
Perfect; use the Graduated Filter tool to preserve some color and detail in the foreground on number 3, while still keeping that cool-ass sky.

As the others said, it would be interesting to see the original file for that one.

im not quite sure how to use that tool but i went ahead and applied it to the foreground on picture 4 (oops).

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Aug 20, 2010 02:03 as a reply to  @ phant0mv87's post |  #12

Doh; I *meant* number 4. :p

Just need to play with the brightness/contrast sliders on the tool a bit. If you go into your user settings here and enable "Image Editing OK", and post the original for number 4, I or someone else can take a quick pass at it and give you some settings to look at.

Based on the third shot's original, you were working with a situation where 'actual' graduated filters would have been perfect; but you're certainly on the right track. I wouldn't darken them so much, though, as you lose so much detail in the foregrounds.


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Aug 20, 2010 02:08 |  #13

I think the best would be if you could keep the foreground as it was in the original image. The trees would keep the detail instead of becoming silhouettes. It would look better in my opinion. However, this is a personal preference. I still like the clouds and the sky in your processed image. That was well done.

If you use Photoshop beside Lightroom, you could possibly dodge that narrow bend where the trees are. This is what I would try to do. Otherwise, the image looks nice.


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Aug 20, 2010 02:11 |  #14

Snydremark wrote in post #10755139 (external link)
Based on the third shot's original, you were working with a situation where 'actual' graduated filters would have been perfect; but you're certainly on the right track. I wouldn't darken them so much, though, as you lose so much detail in the foregrounds.

I agree with Snydremark, the real gradual ND filters would have helped there.


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Aug 20, 2010 02:14 |  #15

Snydremark wrote in post #10755139 (external link)
Doh; I *meant* number 4. :p

Just need to play with the brightness/contrast sliders on the tool a bit. If you go into your user settings here and enable "Image Editing OK", and post the original for number 4, I or someone else can take a quick pass at it and give you some settings to look at.

Based on the third shot's original, you were working with a situation where 'actual' graduated filters would have been perfect; but you're certainly on the right track. I wouldn't darken them so much, though, as you lose so much detail in the foregrounds.

alright. i made the setting change. how do i save it/post it here?


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