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Raw software, which one is the Best?

 
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Aug 20, 2010 09:20 |  #1

As of today we have so many programs to work with Raw images.So many years i was using Capture one Pro and i was so happy.It was simple to use and images looked amazing. Not anymore, way to much stuff there, and so confusing.
So, which software you guys are using right now and why you like it? (no light room please )
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Aug 20, 2010 11:14 |  #2

Well, hmm, you specify "no Lightroom" -- does that also mean the people who prefer to use Photoshop with Camera Raw? That shares the same Raw processing engine that Lightroom has (assuming a current version) and many people do prefer that workflow.

Aside from the Adobe "big two" Digital Photo Professional (DPP) from Canon has become quite popular because it is quite simple for basic Raw processing and has a very nice feature in which it applies a Picture Style (the one you have set in your camera) as a "starting point" for your Raw processing and from there you can switch things around and process as you will.

For Mac users there is Aperture, which has a similar design model to Lightroom, and then there is Photoshop Elements 8, which gives you the full version of Adobe Camera Raw (for the Mac) as part of the "smaller" Elements package.

Users of the Gimp have plug-ins for Raw processing.


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Aug 20, 2010 11:53 as a reply to  @ tonylong's post |  #3

I am a long time user of C1 Pro and you are missing out on a great program if all you are is scared off my more features in the program. Everything that was there a few years ago is still there, you could simply ignore everything else. Imo, this is the best converter in the market. I had tried Lightroom but it just couldn't match the quailty I could get from C1. Don't get me wrong, LR is still a great product but if you are going to buy this you need to be using more than just their RAW converter. If that is all you are after then simply used Adobe camera RAW which is the same engine s LR.

As suggested there is plenty of information on here about the various converters. I did a Google search on RAW converters and there is plenty of information to keep one reading for awhile.


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Aug 20, 2010 11:58 |  #4

A recent mass test of raw processors by Digital Photo magazine in the UK put Lightroom 3 at the top by a country mile. Why do you say "no Lightroom"?

Personally, I run Lightroom 3 and Capture One 5 Pro along side each other. Where one falls short the other excels.

For ease of processing lots of files, Lightroom can't be beaten IMO especially with LR2/Mogrify and a custom colour profile.

For nailing images for picky clients, Capture One 5 Pro always wins for me and with Expression Media now bundled with it (and soon to be integrated) it's no slouch for organisation either.


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Aug 20, 2010 11:59 |  #5

DPP for me.


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Aug 20, 2010 12:48 |  #6

tonylong wrote in post #10756864 (external link)
Well, hmm, you specify "no Lightroom" -- does that also mean the people who prefer to use Photoshop with Camera Raw? That shares the same Raw processing engine that Lightroom has (assuming a current version) and many people do prefer that workflow.

Aside from the Adobe "big two" Digital Photo Professional (DPP) from Canon has become quite popular because it is quite simple for basic Raw processing and has a very nice feature in which it applies a Picture Style (the one you have set in your camera) as a "starting point" for your Raw processing and from there you can switch things around and process as you will.

For Mac users there is Aperture, which has a similar design model to Lightroom, and then there is Photoshop Elements 8, which gives you the full version of Adobe Camera Raw (for the Mac) as part of the "smaller" Elements package.

Users of the Gimp have plug-ins for Raw processing.

Seriously, however, I use LR for most of my processing and CS4 for everything else. Also, remember that LR's full name is 'Adobe Photoshop Lightroom'


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Aug 20, 2010 13:44 |  #7

DPP for me

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Aug 20, 2010 14:03 |  #8

Aperture 3.0 FTMFW.


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Aug 20, 2010 14:34 as a reply to  @ rhomsy's post |  #9

I like Raw Therapee... I think it's still free. Works great with my 40D files.

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Aug 20, 2010 15:27 |  #10

I feel guilty for looking down at DPP for so long.

Now, as soon I get the skins right, every color in the picture just falls in place.




  
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Aug 20, 2010 15:41 |  #11

ACR offers way to much now not to consider it. DPP for quick stuff, but ACR 5.7 allows so much control prior to converting.


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Aug 20, 2010 16:37 |  #12

agedbriar wrote in post #10758111 (external link)
I feel guilty for looking down at DPP for so long.

Now, as soon I get the skins right, every color in the picture just falls in place.

Heh! I don't know that I feel guilty, but I agree that DPP has been relatively overlooked. One of its big lacks has now been overcome -- the ability to arbitrarily rotate (like for horizon correction). That feature held many of us back from seriously considering DPP, and now really frees people.

Now, I've been a die-hard Lightroom user ever since its LR1 release, and rarely even use Photoshop. And, with the LR2 and LR3 added featues (expecially the brushes and gradients and improved sharpening and noise reduction) LR is more powerul than ever before.

But, that being said, I'm quiet happy having DPP installed and used for "quick conversions" on my little laptop, where I spend a whole lot of my time. For serious photo editing I'm upstairs on my desktop workstation (or on my big heavy "portable" laptop workstation) where I have LR, PS and calibrated monitors, etc. But because of its small laptop and quick-conversion approach, I enjoy zipping through DPP.


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Aug 20, 2010 16:58 as a reply to  @ PhotoMatte's post |  #13

I like Lightroom and ACR when going directly into Photoshop. I have DPP installed, guess I need to take a look at it too.

tonylong wrote:
there is Photoshop Elements 8, which gives you the full version of Adobe Camera Raw (for the Mac) as part of the "smaller" Elements package.

Is ACR the same in Elements as in PS for the Mac? Wonder why they lobotomized it in Windows Elements.




  
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Aug 20, 2010 17:04 |  #14

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Is ACR the same in Elements as in PS for the Mac? Wonder why they lobotomized it in Windows Elements.

Elements has always had a "truncated" version of ACR in both Windows and, as far as I know the Mac as well. But with Elements 8 they tossed in Bridge for the Mac. Now as I understand, the default behavior (if you double-click a Raw file in Bridge) is to open the "little" version of ACR, but I'm told there is a short cut that will open the full version, which is very good news for Mac users!


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Aug 20, 2010 17:14 |  #15

I also find it interesting that you say no lightroom. I started with the Canon software but have since graduated. One thing you have to remember I do minimal PP, I'm just not that good at it, that simple!

Both the main programs I now use have been superceeded, I have LR2.4 and CS4, plus the cheaper Corel Photo Professional 2 which I brought it on a whim one day when I saw it in a shop and mainly just use it if I want to frame, it is simply easier.

I now start in LR2.4 and then switch to CS4 if I need to straighten shots taken with my 10mm, or do minor clone outs.

If I update to any of the latest versions I will go LR3 rather than CS5, that is how much I like Lightroom these days. The more I use LR and get into it the more features it seems to have.


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