Canon 1Ds mark 4

bkdc wrote in post #10757858
Is there any lens in existence that can resolve 32MP? If they're going to boost the megapixels, they'd better AT LEAST match Nikon D3x's low light performance. I say keep the current resolution and get some serious ISO hyperperformance! I can just imagine the insane RAW file sizes coming out of that camera. How about Quad-DIGIC V processing? LOL.

Finally someone who thinks like me! Quad DIGIC FTW!

bkdc wrote in post #10757858
Is there any lens in existence that can resolve 32MP?

medium format lenses have been doing it for years. it will be exciting to see what revised L lenses canon announces at photokina to help with all those mp of the new 1ds

bkdc wrote in post #10757858
Is there any lens in existence that can resolve 32MP?

Any lens that looks good on the current generation of crop cameras will certainly do well on a 32 megapixel 1Ds4. The lens needs to outresolve a 12.5 megapixel sensor on a crop camera in order to be able to do the same with a 32 megapixel sensor on a full frame camera.

Modern lenses are better than you might think, and the demands placed on lenses' resolving power by full frame sensors are generally quite a bit more lax than those from crop cameras.

kcbrown wrote in post #10758172
Modern lenses are better than you might think, and the demands placed on lenses' resolving power by full frame sensors are generally quite a bit more lax than those from crop cameras.

is that b/c of the lower pixel density on ff?

NaKiD EyE wrote in post #10758505
is that b/c of the lower pixel density on ff?

Yep.

ok folks, here is my another analysis of the current situation on teh market. my previous analysis might have been a bit off but not too much. I still stand by it and believe that's the route, canons gonna take. What made me think though is 60D. I simply didn't believe it will ever happen. There were so many rumors about it that it made me puke several times ^_^ That said, it is indeed hitting the market. how does 60D impact 1Ds4 !? well here is how ... first. From the leaked pictures we can clearly see that 60D has a flipping LCD. Why do you need a flipping LCD on a single lens reflex camera!? you don't. you have a viewfinder for a reason. So it doesn't make sense to photographers but ... but it does make sens when your filming. so 60D might be more video oriented SLR, rather then a revolutionary still camera. Then comes another question. Well, if its video oriented, then what new features will it have!? new codec!? AF in video!? the one bit we should be interested though is what CPU it will use. there is chance that it might use Digic V and if indeed that happens, then all of you who can afford 1Ds4 can already jizz your pants as that camera will rock!! but again ... and its a big but, time wise it makes no sense. so 60D comes out with that 18mpx 1.6 crop sensor but with Digic5 and new video features. What about 7D then!? its gonna be a faster camera, thats priced higher using an older technology with the same sensor!? makes no sense to photographers. Why would canon cut into the sales of 7D which are spectacular (just go to BH and see how many reviews there are, lol) why create a camera that has clearly new technology and performs better with the same sensor as its bigger brother that's more expansive!? makes no sense to me. Its like BMW announcing that their new 3series convertible has a new V12 engine and its cheaper then M3. again, makes no sense. so for 60D with digic5 to make any sense, it would have to be heavily video oriented as it will only fly then. Video does require a lot more processing power so it would be logical to make 60D beefier.

ok, ok, so how does that relate to 1Ds4. Well if 60D comes out with Digic5, then obviously the next model to be released will too. Canon with dual digic4s can already achieve 32mpx at 5fps now but I'm guessing that's the limit. Canon wanted to improve DR but that requires processing power as well. Well with digic5, it will have all that and more so indeed it ll probably have 32mpx but that rumors about much better DR will come true.

That's the less probable way of how things will go. I still think 60D will have dual 4s, maybe with a new codec but it wont be some kind of a revolution. if 60D doesn't get digic5 then the chances of 1Ds4 getting it are very slim. why have two pro cameras that are at a totally different technology levels. lol, well which 1 series camera is number 1 then!? lol. it just wont do. canon will probably just do 1Ds3 on steroids like they did to 1D4. so it'll be lowered to that 29.3 mpx to allow for that extra DR levels.

and that leaves us to 5D MK III. Now, here is where it all comes together. There are no excuses for 5D3. Everything times perfectly for it. Digic5, 7D AF, New codec for video and so on. I still think canon saves digic5 for 5D3 and will make the most anticipated DSLR launch in history of mankind. time wise it makes sens and economically it makes sens. video guys will drool over 5D3, photogs will drool over 5D3 and I personally can't wait for it ^_^

Mastermarek,

I hope your "worst case" is not true, but if the 1Ds 4 comes out with 30MP or less then I for one will sit firmly on my wallet. I will not be buying - Canon take note.

I shall continue with my little 30D until Canon or someone else does produce a full frame body with sufficient pixel density for my needs. 32mp would not have been much of a margin and I'd prefer more , but it would give me just enough to justify the purchase.

Canon had been asleep at the wheel for a few years, but I thought they had woken up and started to respond to the opposition. 30MP is small beer, I expect 32MP AND better dynamic res. We now have Leica and Hasselblad offering medium format bodies which directly attacks the 1Ds core customer base and Canon need to react.

I have a clocked i7 920, two Intel X-25's in a raid array and a high end vga card and that still struggles with lots of 21mb Raw files.

32mb Raw files!

just bring it already! Who cares about 60D, there is a good 7D, how much
cheaper can 60D be to make sense?
All that talk about 60D is boring, bring an improved 1Ds
with a better dynamic range and 32-39 MP. That's all I want.
1Ds MkIII was a disappointment, can Canon disappoint twice in a row?
Yes, they can
But this time I'm stuck, 5D MkII shipped, no camera to put my excellent Zeiss glass on.
And yes, I'm not worried if my lenses can resolve that much resolution -
yes, they can!

Ah, 39MP, sing that to me again!

That, an MLU button and clean low ISO performance and I swear I'd never be nasty about Canon ever again.

snowboarder wrote in post #10762722
just bring it already! Who cares about 60D, there is a good 7D, how much
cheaper can 60D be to make sense?
All that talk about 60D is boring, bring an improved 1Ds
with a better dynamic range and 32-39 MP. That's all I want.
1Ds MkIII was a disappointment, can Canon disappoint twice in a row?
Yes, they can
But this time I'm stuck, 5D MkII shipped, no camera to put my excellent Zeiss glass on.
And yes, I'm not worried if my lenses can resolve that much resolution -
yes, they can!

I beg to differ on the 1Ds MK III being a disappointment. It's an improvement over the 1Ds MK II imo. If you want to compare it to the 5D II, the only thing it's got is maybe a half stop improvement in ISO. Shall I bring up noise banding? What about all the 5D II owners that cry about the AF being poor in low light? Need I say more?
Anyways, this is the 1Ds MK IV thread. Bring on the megapixels! I'll surely take 32-39 MP myself. If it's a total disappointment, I'm going Leica. You can't get better then that.

More speculations - 39MP , no announcement til mid 2011 (meaning all delays for 5D3 and Digic V...)

http://photorumors.com​/2010/08/23/rumors-recap-2/

waving_odd wrote in post #10772220
no announcement til mid 2011

that would s@ck...

snowboarder wrote in post #10772411
that would s@ck...

Umm, that would be terribly off-setting for the 5D III and all other forthcoming releases for sure.

I could live with that. Unlikely though.