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Aug 26, 2010 15:32 |  #181

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I've been told that Canon would update this year one of their best-seller. Where is it !?!

Where did you receive such definitive information from?


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Aug 26, 2010 15:32 |  #182

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Do you see anyone saying that? I don't. What I see is people asking for the same lenses that they have been asking for over the last 5 years and still haven't been delivered.

Yep.


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Aug 26, 2010 15:32 |  #183

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But the 100-400L works on croppers too. So it is still short compared to the "160-640mm L"

I know just putting a spin on it for all those whining about it.:D


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Aug 26, 2010 15:33 |  #184

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I know just putting a spin on it for all those whining about it.:D

You cannot defeat our whining. It has grown too powerful to be stopped!!! MwaHahahah :twisted:


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Aug 26, 2010 15:34 |  #185

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You cannot defeat our whining. It has grown too powerful to be stopped!!! MwaHahahah :twisted:

Yes and we like to eat cheese with our whine as well.


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Aug 26, 2010 15:34 |  #186

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You cannot defeat our whining. It has grown too powerful to be stopped!!! MwaHahahah :twisted:

:lol: The "L" Cropper!


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Aug 26, 2010 15:36 |  #187

Mgw189 wrote in post #10794318 (external link)
I hope the world didnt end with my mistype of the focal lenght. I am surprised that canons site didnt crash with all the people flocking to the site to check on the release of the other new lens....

Ok, my comment seems unnecessarily harsh in retrospect. I apologize.

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The fact remains that I really think the lens is useless and unneeded. The price tag is to high on that lens. If they could have brought the price tag down around say in the $800 range I think it would have been a much more marketable lens. In that same price range you already have great lense like the 70-200f4L is / 70-200 f2.8l / 100-400f 4.5-5.6l Hopefully I didnt screw anything up this time in my posting

If you think the lens is "useless and uneeded", don't buy it (or even discuss it). Most people feel the same way about the $1250-ish 70-300DO, so it's not talked about a lot around here.

There is already a 70-300 with IS and better IQ (than the 75-300), selling in the sub-$800 range: the 70-300IS!

If you mean upgrade the 70-300IS with better IS, true ring USM, L build quality and weather sealing, you can't realistically expect $800 for it. $800 may get you ring USM and L build quality (e.g. the non-IS 70-200/4L), but adding IS and weather-sealing will sure put it above $1000.

Of note, the MRSP of the 70-300L is $1500, but most people expect it to settle down to $1100 eventually.

So, just like there are 4 price tiers for the xx-200 market:
<$300: 55-250 IS
<$1000: non-IS 70-200/4L
<$2000: 70-200/4L IS or non-IS 70-200/2.8L or 70-200 Mk I
>$2000: 70-200 Mk II

there will be 3 price tiers for the xx-300 market:
<$200: 75-300III
<$600: 70-300 IS
>$1000: 70-300 DO or 70-300L


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Aug 26, 2010 15:41 |  #188

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I doubt Canon would care actually. After all, they have nothing to do with this forum. While they may silently look in, they just don't seem interested.

Seems that way . Or else they wouldn't have released the 70-300mm L :lol: .


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Aug 26, 2010 15:43 as a reply to  @ post 10792230 |  #189

Two disappointments for me:
- long wait between now and actual release (store availability) date for all new lenses and teleconverters
- price matching game with Nikon

Other than that, I'm nicely surprised and would never expected so many new items announced in one day!


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Aug 26, 2010 15:45 |  #190

I think the point is if the 70-300mm was the best choice to pick and upgrade. There are many more lenses that should have been looked at or there are many focal length ranges that need something or something better.

I already see people either hating/loving 70-300mm L IS (at least on this thread) which is just been announced!


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Aug 26, 2010 15:49 |  #191

In2Photos wrote in post #10794739 (external link)
I doubt Canon would care actually. After all, they have nothing to do with this forum. While they may silently look in, they just don't seem interested.

CountryBoy wrote in post #10794838 (external link)
Seems that way . Or else they wouldn't have released the 70-300mm L :lol: .


For a lens that is not interesting/unwanted/e​tc, it sure gathers a lot of traffic/attention:
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=922485

(started only 16 hours ago but already at 18 pages)


If people truly want nothing to do this lens, stop talking/whining about it!


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Aug 26, 2010 15:52 |  #192

RetroBlader wrote in post #10794902 (external link)
For a lens that is not interesting/unwanted/e​tc, it sure gathers a lot of traffic:
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=922485
(started only 16 hours ago but already at 18 pages)

If people truly want nothing to do this lens, stop talking/whining about it!

:lol:

I can't , i'd have to go do something like mow the yard or use the grass trimmer :lol:.


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Aug 26, 2010 15:53 |  #193

RetroBlader wrote in post #10794811 (external link)
Ok, my comment seems unnecessarily harsh in retrospect. I apologize.



If you think the lens is "useless and uneeded", don't buy it (or even discuss it). Most people feel the same way about the $1250-ish 70-300DO, so it's not talked about a lot around here.

:cool:

Yeah I wouldnt mess with the DO either in that price range... another lens that seems silly in that price range. I understand why the lens is the price it is and respect it but I think when people weigh their options in that price range that lens would be the last one picked. Portrait and sports people will gravitate towards the 70-200 f2.8 and wildlife/birders will tend to gravitate towards the 100-400.... It just seems as though they could have come out with something else. I know they will sell these lenses there are people that will buy it.


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Aug 26, 2010 15:54 |  #194

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First person to buy the 70-300 L for $1500 raise their hand. I want to give you the Biggest Loser award. :lol:

timnosenzo wrote in post #10793268 (external link)
Which means that anyone who buys it is a loser. Cool. :rolleyes:

Awwwww, don't be like that Timmy! In fact, after looking at it a bit more, and seeing the MTF, maybe I'll be handing myself this special award :lol:




  
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Aug 26, 2010 15:55 |  #195

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I doubt Canon would care actually. After all, they have nothing to do with this forum. While they may silently look in, they just don't seem interested.

Considering all the ground Canon has lost and the troubles they've experienced these past few years, this would not surprise me in the least. If anything seems obvious, it's that the announcement today wasn't born from any thorough market study or user/consumer participation.

The super update may be explained by Canon wishing to preempt any further market corrosion by Nikon, et al., in the supertele segment. But surely it's not because the masses were in an uproar demanding updates to these already stellar lenses. Canon took the initiative here. It's understandable and commendable.

The 60D.. I can't explain it. It seems more reactionary to what competitors are doing than forging anything new or differentiating a product line. If anything, the 60D is what happens when you paint yourself into a corner with a very competitive entry-level line and an inexpensive, very well performing mid-range (7D). There just isn't room for Canon to push the envelope in the middle without stepping on the toes of other models. But as it stands, the 60D is a further degradation of a line that hasn't impressed me since the 40D. How do you seperate it? Add a gimmick.

I don't see 60D making much of a splash. I hope I'm wrong.

The 70-300 "L"... stymied here too. Of all the areas to spend resources, of all the lenses that could use attention, of all the lenses that could be created that would find their way into more bags, this one is close to the bottom of the list. Considering its specs, slapping some L flavor onto such a mundane product seems more like a cash grab at $1500, not delivering a product users or consumers have been asking for or filling a hole in a lens line-up. This thing could resolve like the 300mm f2.8 IS across its entire range and it's still not going into my bag. And at $1500, those type of consumers who wouldn't be put off by its slow, variable aperture will most likely be put off by its price. So... stymied.


Off to eat some cheese. Cheers. :)


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