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Aug 26, 2010 15:55 |  #196

LightRules wrote in post #10794950 (external link)
Awwwww, don't be like that Timmy! In fact, after looking at it a bit more, and seeing the MTF, maybe I'll be handing myself this special award :lol:

Outrage at first then curiousity sits in :lol:


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Aug 26, 2010 15:57 |  #197

RetroBlader wrote in post #10794902 (external link)
For a lens that is not interesting/unwanted/e​tc, it sure gathers a lot of traffic/attention:
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=922485

(started only 16 hours ago but already at 18 pages)


If people truly want nothing to do this lens, stop talking/whining about it!


:lol:

Why do we have to stop talking about it? I admit that there are some folks who will have interest in this lens, I'm just not one of them. Doesn't mean that I can't vent my displeasure for what was released.

BTW, most of those 18 pages are of people that don't want it. ;)


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Aug 26, 2010 15:59 |  #198

In2Photos wrote in post #10794967 (external link)
BTW, most of those 18 pages are of people that don't want it. ;)

Seems to be the case with the 60D too. At least the new big whites are popular... and expensive :)


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Aug 26, 2010 16:21 |  #199

In2Photos wrote in post #10794739 (external link)
Not a pro, although I do some youth sports and an occasional wedding/portrait gig. So no need for the loan. As a serious hobbiest I don't see why I have to "settle" for a $1500 lens. Why is there such a gap between a lens like the 100-400 and the superteles at $5k? There is no such gap in Canon cameras!

Well, based on the average household income in the largest market for such goods, US$1000 has always been that magical line separating mass market and niche market.

Remember all the fanfare when the original Digital Rebel/300D came out, breaking that $1000 barrier for the first time?

We should be glad there are as many L lenses in the $1000-$1500 range!

Of course, some predict China and India will take over as the largest markets in the near future. Given the average household income there, demand for lenses over $1000 may continue to diminish. :shock:

So, let's treasure what we have.... :D

P.S. There is always rental for the occasional users. Near where I am, one can rent the 400/2.8L for less than $150/weekend. I'm sure something similar exists where you live (or there is always online rentals). If you are ready to spend $3000 (it sounds like you are), you can have it for 1 weekend every season for 5 years.

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How do you know there are very few people willing to spend betwen $1500-$5000 on lenses? How much is that 70-200 f/2.8 II you keep raving about? ;) There is NO market here because the lenses don't exist!!! Sigma 120-300 is priced here as is their 300 f/2.8 and there are LOTS of folks buying used Canon 300 2.8 IS lenses in this price range. If we had more offerings they would sell!

First of all, I'm not raving about the 70-200 Mk II (not yet anyway -- I'm renting it this coming weekend for my sister's wedding). However, it is one lens in your magical price range ($1500 < x < $5000) that has good IQ/AF/IS and can take TCs.

Why is there market for the 70-200 Mk II? Because just about every wedding photographer (and there are a lot of wedding photographers around) has or want one.

People routinely pay thousands of dollars for their wedding photography, but who is going to pay to have little Johnny's soccer game documented? How many people are career motorsports photographers? Wildlife photography is a very small market.

So in the end, without a secondary consumer market (e.g. weddings) to support the photographers, the demand will never be there for the $2000-$5000 lenses.

Sorry to disappoint you....

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Aug 26, 2010 16:26 |  #200

CountryBoy wrote in post #10794926 (external link)
I can't [Stop talking/whining about the 70-300L], i'd have to go do something like mow the yard or use the grass trimmer :lol:.


Or go concentrate on work, in my case.

Hmm, on second thought, maybe I SHOULD go work, so I can eventually pay for one of these new toys. (The TCs, not the superteles.)


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Aug 26, 2010 16:29 |  #201

LightRules wrote in post #10794950 (external link)
Awwwww, don't be like that Timmy! In fact, after looking at it a bit more, and seeing the MTF, maybe I'll be handing myself this special award :lol:


Great! Then we can all count on you to do a detailed comparison with the 70-300IS, 70-200/4L IS and 70-200 Mk II.

Thanks in advance!

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Aug 26, 2010 16:29 |  #202

LightRules wrote in post #10794950 (external link)
Awwwww, don't be like that Timmy! In fact, after looking at it a bit more, and seeing the MTF, maybe I'll be handing myself this special award :lol:

Yes it always helps if you read up first :lol: !


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Aug 26, 2010 17:10 |  #203

CountryBoy wrote in post #10795156 (external link)
Yes it always helps if you read up first :lol: !

Lucky for LightRules, I don't think the 70-300L will come with any Custom Functions to set.

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Aug 26, 2010 17:17 |  #204

So, who's gonna buy these? The 8-15 looks kinda crazy...


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Aug 26, 2010 17:32 |  #205

Im actually interested in the 70-300 for hiking, if they dont release a new 100-400.

Its smallish, lightish, most likely VERY sharp, weather sealed, Ring type USM, 4 stop IS and is going to have a great build! Whats not to like about it? It seems to me, there will be a decent market for it. People who want to upgrade for their current 70-300IS that dont want to loose the 100 in range(or want to attach a TC) and Dont want the weight of the 100-400. We shall find out pretty soon I guess.


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Aug 26, 2010 17:57 |  #206

Combatmedic870 wrote in post #10795506 (external link)
...most likely VERY sharp, ....

If you can believe Canon's MTF charts, it looks to be just a tad sharper than the 70-200 II.
http://www.usa.canon.c​om …70_200mm_f_2_8l​_is_ii_usm (external link)
http://www.usa.canon.c​om …_70_300mm_f_4_5​_6l_is_usm (external link)


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Aug 26, 2010 18:02 as a reply to  @ gjl711's post |  #207

I'm genuinely intrigued by the 8-15L although it's well outside of my price range.

I was really gunning for an update to the 50mm f/1.4 USM...

That said, I really don't like the recent designs tweaks Canon has implemented. "ULTRASONIC" and the new focal length font look cheap to me.


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Aug 26, 2010 18:08 |  #208

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That said, I really don't like the recent designs tweaks Canon has implemented. "ULTRASONIC" and the new focal length font look cheap to me.


You are going to buy (or not buy) a lens based on how the font looks to you?

:shock:


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Aug 26, 2010 18:11 |  #209

RetroBlader wrote in post #10795685 (external link)
You are going to buy (or not buy) a lens based on how the font looks to you?

:shock:

Apparently everyone is hung up on black vs white, too, so not much different.


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Aug 26, 2010 18:11 |  #210

RetroBlader wrote in post #10795685 (external link)
You are going to buy (or not buy) a lens based on how the font looks to you?

:shock:

He said nothing of the sort.


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