60D compared to the 50D... what are your thoughts?

Canon's line up and their debuting almost makes sense now

I read some of the comments in this thread and I'm baffled by the large number of people bashing the 60D's articulated screen.

My first DSLR was a 30D, my second is the 5d Mark II and the last camera purchased is the G11. Although you cannot match the IQ of the G11 compared to the DSLRs the articulated screen is a an amazing feature as it allows the photographer to compose images from any angle, position and it shows a 100% preview of the frame. In some situations it allows taking candid shots easier.

I suspect that people are bashing the articulated screen because it conveys a PS look to their professsional DSLRs. My message to all these people is: lose the prejudice and see the potential this feature offers!

Suedezu wrote in post #10798392
I read some of the comments in this thread and I'm baffled by the large number of people bashing the 60D's articulated screen.

My first DSLR was a 30D, my second is the 5d Mark II and the last camera purchased is the G11. Although you cannot match the IQ of the G11 compared to the DSLRs the articulated screen is a an amazing feature as it allows the photographer to compose images from any angle, position and it shows a 100% preview of the frame. In some situations it allows taking candid shots easier.

I suspect that people are bashing the articulated screen because it conveys a PS look to their professsional DSLRs. My message to all these people is: lose the prejudice and see the potential this feature offers!

I completely agree

Is there someone notice that it has 1/250 for flash sync?

Suedezu wrote in post #10798392
I suspect that people are bashing the articulated screen because it conveys a PS look to their professsional DSLRs. My message to all these people is: lose the prejudice and see the potential this feature offers!

While I understand the usefulness it's the potential for damage that turns me off.

When I carry multiple bodies one is always bouncing around on my hip or back

For working photogs that don't have the time to treat their gear with kid gloves there is reason for concern--but then serious photographers are not the target audience here.

dave kadolph wrote in post #10798483
While I understand the usefulness it's the potential for damage that turns me off.

When I carry multiple bodies one is always bouncing around on my hip or back

For working photogs that don't have the time to treat their gear with kid gloves there is reason for concern--but then serious photographers are not the target audience here.

You can always use it folded in these situations.

If anyone is still wondering, on the Canon UK website the 50D has been moved into the archived products section.

I've read lots about the 60D and I still have an unanswered question. The focus points in the viewfinder... will they light up red like the 50D or show up black like the 7D? I'm hoping for the former, and I'm hoping the AF will be just as fast as the 50D (no reason why not...)

Other than that, I still think the 60D is a good upgrade from the 50D. A few things have changed for the worse, but many more features are better or new.

I still want to try one.

apersson850 wrote in post #10798355
It only takes you realize that the 50D has two successors, one up and one down. Then you'll understand the logic in this.

If Canon didn't want people to believe the 60D to be a continuation of the XXD line, then they could have (and should have) named it something else.

They did that with the 7D, after all -- its capabilities, price, and name all consistently show it to be a new camera line and not merely a successor.

I don't disagree that there needs to be something in between the Rebel series and the 7D line. And, frankly, a 50D with an improved sensor, video, and even an articulating screen would have accomplished that quite nicely, and would have been consistent with its predecessors in terms of being an incremental improvement over the current 50D. But Canon decided instead to dumb down the 50D's successor and make it a worse camera than the 50D's logical successor would be.

Canon could have accomplished the job of providing an "in between" camera without compromising the capabilities and build quality that the 50D already has, and certainly could have offered it at the price they're offering the 60D at. But they chose to listen to their marketing department, as they almost always do.

Again, I consider the 7D to be a big surprise, in that Canon chose to listen to their photographer customer base instead of their marketing department.

Yes, the problem with the 60D is its name, not its abilities.

But Canon created the problem when they named the 7D. They could have called it the Canon ZX, or maybe the GT2, in other words, something very different. Instead they messed up a perfectly logical naming system.

Which may mean that the 70D will also be a severe let down, as Canon increase the perceived gap between it and the 7D range, the logical descendant of the 50D.

tkbslc wrote in post #10795682
And then 99% of people doing flash work just use wireless transmitters from the hotshoe anyway, right?

It's just funny to hear someone complain about the lack of PC Sync when if you go to the strobe forum on this very site people tell you to avoid PC sync cables like the plague.

But its one of those things that when you need it, its essential.

gonzogolf wrote in post #10798675
But its one of those things that when you need it, its essential.

I don't know anything about off camera flash control... is it appropriate to think of the PC sync connector being upgraded to the wireless flash control?

MintMark wrote in post #10798702
I don't know anything about off camera flash control... is it appropriate to think of the PC sync connector being upgraded to the wireless flash control?

The wireless flash control only controls canon speedlites. If you want to trigger anything else, alien bees or other studio strobes you need to be able to sync them somehow. As noted the preferable way would be a wireless trigger of some sort. But when push comes to shove and something fails I want the ability to sync with a wire in my camera, and its such a basic and inexpensive option I cant believe they left it off.

Kiwikat wrote in post #10793745
50D for the win.

I know I will be keeping mine for a very long time.

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #10793753
Have you ever really had a discussion about MA outside POTN or other "educated" photography circles? Really?

Hell, I belong to a flesh and blood photography group populated by amazingly talented people and most of them don't understand what MA is or does.

My 7D is dead nuts on from the factory, no adjustment needed at all.

I dont see this new camera as really an upgrade for anything. Someone with a Rebel T2i going to this just wouldnt make sense because its pretty much the same camera in a slightly different body so they really wouldnt be gaining much at all. I see it as a downgrade from the 50D. So basically Canon has introduced 2 entry level cameras now. You either start with the rebel and move to the 7D or 5D or 1D..or you start with the 60D and move to 7D, 5D, 1D...Stupid addition if you ask me.