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Sep 01, 2010 04:25 |  #1

OK, here's my interesting problem: I need to walk into a situation and be able to shoot quickly with a self-contained setup that can give me nice soft side light. I have an off-camera flash and umbrella that do nicely. But a light stand, clamp, or other fixed mount doesn't work well for several reason; I need the flexibility to move around a fair amount, and there often isn't room for extra stuff like stands.

The ideal solution would be an assistant (VALS) but I don't have one available. So I figured I could just attach the flash to the umbrella, hold it in my left hand, and shoot with my right. But I experimented with that today and discovered a couple of problems:


  1. The flash plus umbrella is pretty clumsy. I need something smaller, still with soft light.
  2. I really need two hands to operate the camera. The situation requires a zoom lens (foot zoom won't work), plus left-hand support for the lens really helps me frame properly.


I tried bouncing the flash, but the light quality just isn't the same.

Has anybody else encountered a similar situation? Any suggestions on how to attack this problem without either a light stand or an assistant? Or am I stuck with bouncing?

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Sep 01, 2010 04:32 |  #2

Curly Cord and a small Soft Box? A lot less ungainly than an umbrella...


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Sep 01, 2010 14:08 |  #3

I saw a video where a guy mounted a flash on a light pole, which was then mounted on a backpack frame and walked around taking photos with flash. It looked really dorky though :D

Another method I could think of is those rifle stocks for your cameras. It maybe easier to operate your camera with one hand, while the other operates the flash.


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Sep 01, 2010 17:53 as a reply to  @ ecub's post |  #4

Try Da Grip (Joe mcNally).

http://www.joemcnally.​com/blog/2008/03/10/da​-grip/ (external link)

I've seen him (in one of his books, i think) hold an OCF in his LEFT hand but RIGHT side of his body. Either way, the shoulder-balance thing should make it more stable.


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Sep 01, 2010 22:00 |  #5

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #10828325 (external link)
Curly Cord and a small Soft Box? A lot less ungainly than an umbrella...

Thanks, Jay. The umbrella is indeed ungainly. I just did a quick test with an improvised setup and liked the look I got; I think a small softbox will do nicely. It won't entirely solve the three-hand problem, but it will certainly make things better.

(Meanwhile, I'm going to stand next to a nuclear power plant for a while and see if I can grow that third arm...)


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Sep 02, 2010 04:18 |  #6

Bounce flash with a black foamy thing (external link)?


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Sep 02, 2010 04:48 as a reply to  @ tim's post |  #7

If you are using a speedlite, then get a small, lightweight light stand and mount it on there with a small softbox. Get some cheap wireless triggers and you won't need a third hand. They made softboxes specifically for speedlites. I hope I am reading your post correctly.


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