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Anyone thinking switching to the dark side? Who's done it? any regrets?

 
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Sep 06, 2010 03:09 |  #46

Had a go with the D700. Just realized how much of a dinosaur the AF of the Canon counterpart is. So tempted. :(

Also the thing is built like a tank compared to the Five-Dee.




  
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Sep 06, 2010 03:10 |  #47

Whelp I am not looking to change brands but I am strongly thinking about tossing the 1DIII up for sale to purchase a 5DII. I just dont use my camera in adverse conditions or sports like I thought I would.

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Sep 06, 2010 03:14 |  #48

taxsux wrote in post #10857654 (external link)
Had a go with the D700. Just realized how much of a dinosaur the AF of the Canon counterpart is. So tempted. :(

Also the thing is built like a tank compared to the Five-Dee.

AF and build is indeed an advantage of the D700 over the 5D MKII

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Whelp I am not looking to change brands but I am strongly thinking about tossing the 1DIII up for sale to purchase a 5DII. I just dont use my camera in adverse conditions or sports like I thought I would.

I can really use the video for a couple upcoming projects.

if you really don't need FF, I think the 7D is the better choice since you are used to the 1D MKIII's AF you might be disappointed by the 5D MKII.


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Sep 06, 2010 03:19 |  #49

I had a 40D and was extremely disappointed after I got the 5D. But I was able to live with it.

After trying the D700. That disappointed was multiplied by several folds. Hahaha!




  
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Sep 06, 2010 03:22 |  #50

You should've bought a 1DsII. :lol:


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Sep 06, 2010 11:10 |  #51

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I have absolutely no issue with Nikon's layout and find it as good as if not better than Canon's. Go figure.

Frankly I don't see one having any significant advantage over the other in this area. I certainly wouldn't base my choice of system on it.

I think the interface details that annoy me are:

-You have to take the camera away from your face to change the ISO.
-The rear dial is much slower to make large sweeps than the canon rear wheel.
-The rear directional pad is pretty bloody hard to use quickly and accurately. It has a terrible sloppy feel. They should copy the design from a gaming company or something if they're gonna use a pad instead of a joystick.
-White Balance Shifting is embedded a few steps into the menu. It's something I use dozens of times in a day's shooting. You have to choose your white balance mode EVERY single time you change the shift even if you never change the mode. It's SO annoying.
-The zoom buttons on the bottom left corner are much harder to use than on the top right like canon. When you are using live view handheld with a moderately heavy lens, it takes some thumb contortion to zoom, while on canon they are in such a natural comfortable spot.

There are also things I love about the Nikon interface and things I hate about the canon, but overall, the canon interface just seems much more natural to use... for ME.


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Sep 06, 2010 11:51 |  #52

Am I the only one that has no issues with the 5DII autofocus? Its nowhere near what my my mkIV is, but for a portrait and landscape camera, the autofocus works fantastic. I have shot many sports with it as well. The center point of the 5DII is the most accurate of the camera bodies in my stable and beats the D3s I sold a couple months back. Its very accurate. Outer points...............d​on't use them.


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Sep 06, 2010 11:52 as a reply to  @ montanawild's post |  #53

Just remember the jedi always beats the sith!




  
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Sep 06, 2010 11:55 |  #54

picturecrazy wrote in post #10858986 (external link)
I think the interface details that annoy me are:

-You have to take the camera away from your face to change the ISO.
-The rear dial is much slower to make large sweeps than the canon rear wheel.
-The rear directional pad is pretty bloody hard to use quickly and accurately. It has a terrible sloppy feel. They should copy the design from a gaming company or something if they're gonna use a pad instead of a joystick.
-White Balance Shifting is embedded a few steps into the menu. It's something I use dozens of times in a day's shooting. You have to choose your white balance mode EVERY single time you change the shift even if you never change the mode. It's SO annoying.
-The zoom buttons on the bottom left corner are much harder to use than on the top right like canon. When you are using live view handheld with a moderately heavy lens, it takes some thumb contortion to zoom, while on canon they are in such a natural comfortable spot.

There are also things I love about the Nikon interface and things I hate about the canon, but overall, the canon interface just seems much more natural to use... for ME.

I can see why you prefer Canon then and I don't see a difference. For me:

- It's easy for me to change ISO while looking through the viewfinder although it's not the greatest button placement. It would be better if they had three buttons behind the shutter release (Mode, ISO, Exposure Comp).
- I agree about Canon's dial being a better design, especially for moving through menu items
- Disagree about the directional pad. I like it MUCH better than Canon's joystick which I've always felt was clunky and cheap
- You could be right about WB setting. I shoot RAW and rarely change from AWB ... which is also more accurate than Canon's IMO.
- I never use Live View so have no issue with the placement of the zoom buttons.

Some of the things I prefer with Nikon:
- The 3 position switch for changing metering mode
- Mode button for changing shooting mode
- On-off switch placement and quality (although I never use it)
- Placement of the flash exposure compensation button
- Easy to access mirror lock-up and no "Direct Print" button
- No going through menus to format a card

As you said there are some puts and takes to each.


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Sep 06, 2010 12:08 |  #55

I think what I like the most about the Nikon interface is that you just have to push the trash button twice to delete an image. Rather than canon's annoying delete-scroll-OK method.


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Sep 06, 2010 12:16 |  #56

picturecrazy wrote in post #10859258 (external link)
I think what I like the most about the Nikon interface is that you just have to push the trash button twice to delete an image. Rather than canon's annoying delete-scroll-OK method.

Still waiting for Oly to hit a home run with an OM-1 sized FF with an interface that has all of the good stuff from Nikon and Canon. I can dream, can't I? :lol:


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Sep 06, 2010 13:10 |  #57

a friend of mine has a D700. Gave it to me for a while to test it and tell her how to use it. Took a half day to get used to the different interface, but it seemed like a nice product and gave good results.


So, in my opinion, I wouldn't see a need to switch. Both are good brands. It's all in how you use them.



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Sep 06, 2010 13:43 |  #58

picturecrazy wrote in post #10859258 (external link)
I think what I like the most about the Nikon interface is that you just have to push the trash button twice to delete an image. Rather than canon's annoying delete-scroll-OK method.

The easy fix for that is to stop taking bad pictures. ;)


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Sep 06, 2010 14:05 |  #59

Anders Östberg wrote in post #10859683 (external link)
The easy fix for that is to stop taking bad pictures. ;)

hahaha LOL. As much as I'd love to be that good... you just can't control when people blink.  :p


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Sep 06, 2010 14:23 |  #60

I must admit the trash button is my most used button.
Apart from the shutter button of course. :)


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