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Sep 05, 2010 16:16 as a reply to  @ post 10854042 |  #16

Bit tech have up their latest PC hardware buyers guide. Its worth a look if you are thinking of building your own.

http://www.bit-tech.net …yer-s-guide-august-2010/1 (external link)

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Sep 06, 2010 23:03 as a reply to  @ Retouch UK's post |  #17

I'm looking at buying a desktop to and I have decided to go to a local shop here that has been around for ages and the prices are very reasonable. They build the comp to exactly what you need...no extra programs sucking up space LOL!! And of course I am going for at least a 24 inch monitor yeah baby that will be sweet don't ya think!


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Sep 07, 2010 13:39 |  #18

I think QueenChatty's approach is something most non-tech or busy photographers should seriously consider. Sure, it's very easy to build a computer, I've built half a dozen. But what happens when 4 weeks after the build something starts happening? I'll tell you what happens, the software vendors say it's the hardware and the hardware vendors say it's the software and you are on your own. There are very good resources on hardware and photography forums that can give you advice but it takes time and dedication.

If that kind of sleuthing and fiddling doesn't appeal to you find a local PC shop that will build one with parts you specify. Have them assemble and test and provide a warranty. If something goes wrong you have someone to fall back on.




  
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Sep 07, 2010 14:55 |  #19

Kent Clark wrote in post #10865894 (external link)
I'll tell you what happens, the software vendors say it's the hardware and the hardware vendors say it's the software and you are on your own.

totally agreed +1.

or, you ask all your tech-friends for help and constantly need them to babysit your machine and they all end up hate you for life.



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Sep 07, 2010 16:19 as a reply to  @ HyperYagami's post |  #20

Well I went to the Computer Store today and they were awesome. They salesman spent over an hour putting together a package deal for me. So here is what I am getting. He also added 4GB more and an extra drive so that if I wanted to copy say a CD with photo's on it to another CD I could. He also added 1TB Barracuda SATA to the deal. I love the 24inch monitor too!

http://www.microage.ca …tNo=24734V&Show​Specs=True (external link)

http://www.microage.ca …tNo=343027&Show​Specs=True (external link)

So tell me what you guys think, I got it all for 1300.00 Canadian.:D


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Sep 08, 2010 10:48 |  #21

Wouldn't be my first choice for the money but will be more than sufficient for photo editing




  
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Sep 08, 2010 17:20 |  #22

rioni wrote in post #10871644 (external link)
Wouldn't be my first choice for the money but will be more than sufficient for photo editing

Ok what would your first choice have been then.


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Sep 08, 2010 17:24 |  #23

Like I posted earlier, the new intel architecture is coming out in a few months so my recommendation would have been to wait for that. If you need to pull the trigger now, I would have gone with a Intel i5 or i7 setup and not a AMD. Also, the onboard video card that comes with the system is pretty weak. Either way, that setup will be fine for photo editing... especially if they upgraded you to 8Gb ram.

If you had to go with AMD, you are still overpaying. With this system that costs half the price, you would get a better video card and monitor.

CPU/Motherboard - 100 (external link) / I've seen these for even less at other retailers recently.
8Gb DDR3 -150
Case/Power Supply - 100
1Gb Drive - 70
Video Card GTS 250 - 100 (and it would blow away the integrated one you got with yours)
Dell ST2310 23" Monitor 200 (or 170 on slickdeals (external link))

Total 750 USD

QueenChatty wrote in post #10873913 (external link)
Ok what would your first choice have been then.




  
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Sep 08, 2010 17:32 |  #24

rioni wrote in post #10873932 (external link)
Like I posted earlier, the new intel architecture is coming out in a few months so my recommendation would have been to wait for that. If you need to pull the trigger now, I would have gone with a Intel i5 or i7 setup and not a AMD. Either way, that setup will be fine for photo editing... especially if they upgraded you to 8Gb ram.

Your spot on about that. I would rather have had a dedicated not shared. I wonder if I could have them upgrade that .....to either better dedicated Nvida or ATI
I'm not that well versed in that aspect soooo hence why I got what I got. Do you have any input about what I could do as far as talk to the rep about upgrading it.
I am going to call him in the morning to ask about the card so help me out if ya can please, much appreciated.


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Sep 08, 2010 17:43 |  #25

I'd see if he/she could knock off 200 (minimum) from the price. That does not seem like a fair price for that system. I'd also take a few days to shop around to see if you could get a better deal on a Intel based system. If you must go with that system, have them knock off the 200 dollars and then shop online for a video card (or have them include a GTS 250 or equivalent at no extra cost) . If you buy it online, the system shows that it has a PCI-x 16x port... Installation will take you around 10 minutes if that.

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Your spot on about that. I would rather have had a dedicated not shared. I wonder if I could have them upgrade that .....to either better dedicated Nvida or ATI
I'm not that well versed in that aspect soooo hence why I got what I got. Do you have any input about what I could do as far as talk to the rep about upgrading it.
I am going to call him in the morning to ask about the card so help me out if ya can please, much appreciated.




  
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Sep 08, 2010 17:55 |  #26

Also, have you thought about getting a Mac? You could get a refurb iMac for that price with a 27" monitor! I'd go that route over the AMD Windows if it was me.

Core 2 @ 1300
http://store.apple.com …FB952LL/A?mco=M​TU3ODU5MzY (external link)

i5 @ 1600
http://store.apple.com …FB953LL/A?mco=M​TU3ODcyNDE (external link)




  
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Sep 08, 2010 20:39 |  #27

rioni wrote in post #10873932 (external link)
Like I posted earlier, the new intel architecture is coming out in a few months so my recommendation would have been to wait for that. If you need to pull the trigger now, I would have gone with a Intel i5 or i7 setup and not a AMD. Also, the onboard video card that comes with the system is pretty weak. Either way, that setup will be fine for photo editing... especially if they upgraded you to 8Gb ram.

If you had to go with AMD, you are still overpaying. With this system that costs half the price, you would get a better video card and monitor.

CPU/Motherboard - 100 (external link) / I've seen these for even less at other retailers recently.
8Gb DDR3 -150
Case/Power Supply - 100
1Gb Drive - 70
Video Card GTS 250 - 100 (and it would blow away the integrated one you got with yours)
Dell ST2310 23" Monitor 200 (or 170 on slickdeals (external link))

Total 750 USD

A GTS250 is OVERKILL for a photo machine. The 4200 integrated graphics are MORE than sufficient. While some programs, like CS5, take advantage of the GPU, they do so in a very limited role right now with no significant gains in performance.


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Sep 08, 2010 20:42 as a reply to  @ rioni's post |  #28

I don't think your desktop is THAT overpriced, consider you have a (if I read it correct) 250GB SSD.

The X3 is faster than C2D (at least benchmark-wise) and has 1 more core, so I don't see any reason to go that route.

The monitor, consider it's TN type, yes it's overpriced. Try newegg.ca .

ATI 4200 built in is way plenty enough for a non-gaming machine, it's going to eat a little of your 4GB RAM for video, but 4GB is just "ok enough" no matter what. Consider trim down other things and go 8GB.

If you really want a graphics card consider something fanless, but like I said the 4200 is more than enough.



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Sep 09, 2010 04:52 |  #29

rioni wrote in post #10874101 (external link)
Also, have you thought about getting a Mac?

I'd venture a wild guess: Yes?

BayAreaPhotog wrote in post #10340203 (external link)
A PC, not Mac. . . .

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On a side note, I'd not buy a C2D. Way underpowered.


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Sep 09, 2010 11:02 |  #30

I just build myself a PC for Entertainment Performance (quad core AMD 455 with MSI Mobo) and tried to upload the 32GB memory. I could not believe it went so fast. Well, you need only 4GB and an excellent graphic card about 1GB (cost me $70). It also depends on the OS and I got Windows 7 Ultimate.


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