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baby steps to the 85L II? 85 1.8 --> 85 1.2

 
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Sep 05, 2010 18:33 |  #76
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I think the point here is about the price. Is the lens worth 6 f/1.8 lenses? I mean, one can buy 85 1.8, 17-40, 70-200 f/4, AND Sigma 50 f/1.4 instead of it. I was one of those people who traded my entire kit for 85LII just to try it out, and cannot look back.
Others may like to shoot with various cheaper lenses vs one that's just 1 stop faster than 85 f/1.8. I turned to be one of those people who'd have 1 pair of good jeans vs 4 pairs of OK jeans...still good, but not great.
I think this discussion is more about trying to justify the price of 85LII. Is it worth it, or is it not? It's for the OP to try and decide.


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Sep 05, 2010 18:52 |  #77

For anyone that can afford it, and doesn't need fast focusing, the 85L is fantastic lens. I can see most people being perfectly content with the 85 f/1.8 instead.




  
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Sep 05, 2010 21:56 |  #78

I shoot a lot of frames, in the last year my camera body has acquired 42,000 actuations and I'm guessing that at least half of those were with the 85 1.2, most of the rest with an 24-70. That's a lot of work for a lens to do and I'm expecting both of those lenses to last a very long time with heavy usage. Sometimes a great part of the value is how well a lens will keep doing it for you. Having had an average Nikon lens once in my film days and after about two years of nothing like what I've been doing here, the iris blades fell loose and I had to get it repaired. Not a big deal but I though it a bit odd so from then on I've always got the most professional gear I could unless it was just something I'd use very occasionally.


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Sep 07, 2010 13:24 |  #79

aboss3 wrote in post #10855638 (external link)
I think the point here is about the price. Is the lens worth 6 f/1.8 lenses? I mean, one can buy 85 1.8, 17-40, 70-200 f/4, AND Sigma 50 f/1.4 instead of it. I was one of those people who traded my entire kit for 85LII just to try it out, and cannot look back.
Others may like to shoot with various cheaper lenses vs one that's just 1 stop faster than 85 f/1.8. I turned to be one of those people who'd have 1 pair of good jeans vs 4 pairs of OK jeans...still good, but not great.
I think this discussion is more about trying to justify the price of 85LII. Is it worth it, or is it not? It's for the OP to try and decide.

thanks to everyone's replies. I think I will play it safe financially and get the 85 1.8 first. The sample images posted are out of this world sharp and smooth at the same time. If I find at least $1600 laying around somewhere in the future I'll definitely pick up the L.


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Sep 07, 2010 13:26 |  #80

sounds like a wise decision.. for the price of the 85L you could get the 1.8 and a 35L..


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Sep 07, 2010 18:15 |  #81

Zerimar wrote in post #10865827 (external link)
sounds like a wise decision.. for the price of the 85L you could get the 1.8 and a 35L..

True, and I just sold a 35L and a 85/1.8 to get the 85L. :D


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rkkwan wrote in post #10867363 (external link)
True, and I just sold a 35L and a 85/1.8 to get the 85L. :D

:lol: going different directions


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Sep 08, 2010 01:29 |  #83

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True, and I just sold a 35L and a 85/1.8 to get the 85L. :D

why did you opt to do that?


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Sep 08, 2010 11:13 |  #84

Zerimar wrote in post #10869807 (external link)
why did you opt to do that?

Good question. The thing that triggers my switch was getting a used 5D, so I have both a crop and a FF camera. The 35L is a great walkaround lens for the 5D and great low light lens for either camera, but I decided that a fast zoom will be more versatile, so I bought a Tamron 28-75/2.8 (The 24-70L is a bit too expensive). With the freed fund from the 35L, I figure I could get the legendary 85L II if I also sell my 85/1.8. Mainly just to satisfy my curiosity to see what the L is like and can do, and I figure I will use the 85mm focal length more now that I have a FF camera.

[BTW, originally, I had a 50/1.4 and a 28/1.8; I sold those two and replace it with the 35L. I still love the 35L and will miss it.]


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Sep 20, 2010 11:58 |  #85

I own both and it depends what you are shooting. Other than focal length they are nothing alike. First off, my 85L II is by far my favourite lens of all time it is bar none worth every single penny IMHO. However, it is not without some caveats. It is a very technical specialist lens with an extremely slow AF so don't expect to be getting great shots 100% of the time without some practise, especially for things that move like kids and animals. This is where the 1.8 comes in handy. It has a much faster AF and is (for non-pixel peepers) every bit as sharp. Where it loses out is that gorgeous creamy bokeh the L is known for wide open. Some say the L has better color, CA and flare control but I don't really notice much difference for most shots. So once again it depends what you want to shoot. They are both great lenses that compliment each other very well.


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Sep 20, 2010 13:47 |  #86
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robbym wrote in post #10943122 (external link)
I own both and it depends what you are shooting. Other than focal length they are nothing alike. First off, my 85L II is by far my favourite lens of all time it is bar none worth every single penny IMHO. However, it is not without some caveats. It is a very technical specialist lens with an extremely slow AF so don't expect to be getting great shots 100% of the time without some practise, especially for things that move like kids and animals. This is where the 1.8 comes in handy. It has a much faster AF and is (for non-pixel peepers) every bit as sharp. Where it loses out is that gorgeous creamy bokeh the L is known for wide open. Some say the L has better color, CA and flare control but I don't really notice much difference for most shots. So once again it depends what you want to shoot. They are both great lenses that compliment each other very well.

Great point!
I still cannot justify having this lens, as I don't make money with photography. But it's amazing at f/1.2. Kind of wipes all the negatives out.


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Sep 20, 2010 14:53 |  #87

add my 2p
I have the F1.8 version and yes it is a great Lens for the Money... my brother used to own the 85L and he used to let me use it when ever I wanted

in Low Light situations the 85L has to be seen to be believed - I was utterly astounded by how well it performed at night events where my F1.8 Lenses were really strugling to get any kind of shutter speed

and I had a bunch of other photogs stood around me and they were also blown away with the shutter speeds I was getting with it

so I guess its what your shooting and how critical you need a Low Light Champion in your Lens lineup

I get by with my 85 non L but always yearn for that 85L magic - which I must add has Bokeh to die for

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