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Nikon P7000 Announced

 
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Sep 08, 2010 09:32 |  #1

Nikon has announce their G12 answer. Looks interesting with a 28 - 200 mm zoom, but not very sharp looking sample images so far.

http://www.dpreview.co​m/previews/nikonp7000/ (external link)

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Sep 08, 2010 11:08 |  #2

I thought this comparison was interesting from the DPR preview:

P7000 advantages over G11:

  • Longer (200mm equivalent) telephoto setting
  • 1280x720 HD movie mode
  • Higher resolution LCD screen
  • Electronic virtual horizon
  • Twin control dials
  • Two customizable buttons (although 'Fn' is of limited utility)
  • Socket for external microphone
P7000 advantages over LX5:

  • More versatile zoom lens (28-200mm equivalent)
  • More direct access controls
  • Higher resolution LCD screen
  • Twin control dials
  • Two customizable buttons (although 'Fn' is of limited utility)
  • Built-in optical viewfinder
  • Socket for external microphone
G11 advantages over P7000:

  • Articulated LCD screen
  • Dedicated ISO mode dial
  • Blink detection mode
LX5 advantages over P7000:

  • Significantly more 'compact'
  • Faster lens (f/2-3.3)
  • Provision for optional EVF
  • Versatile iAuto mode
  • Direct video shooting button
Some of the P7000 vs G11 differences will surely disappear when the G12 is announced. I think for me it will come down to mostly a choice between longer zoom of P7000 vs flip out LCD of G12. I'm hoping Canon has more up it's sleeve for the G12 than has been leaked, but I really don't expect that to be the case.

  
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Sep 08, 2010 11:17 |  #3

At first glance, it appears to be a clone of the G11/G12. I was kind of surprised that Nikon would be so blatant in copying Canon. Kind of reminds me of the Russian copy of the US Space Shuttle (Buran).

On closer inspection though, they actually have improved upon the access buttons. There appears to be a well thought out layout and feature set available without having to resort to the menus.

Agree on the picture quality though, they do appear somewhat soft, but then again, DPreview's sample pics have never really impressed me with their accuracy.


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Sep 08, 2010 11:22 as a reply to  @ arg245's post |  #4

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Sep 08, 2010 12:15 |  #5

I'm a G11 owner. Looking at the back of the P7000--it looks like Nikon has listened to comments made by Canon G11 owners. Ms Jannie (sp?) had quite a thread going here about her G11 ergonomics until she sold it...
The range of the lens on the Nikon would suit me better IF optical quality is good enough.
I miss the extended range of my G9. The longer telephoto suits my current shooting style.
I do like the screen on the G11 very much.
Best news--it's good to have choices. Canon bring on the G12!


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Sep 08, 2010 12:44 |  #6
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The 921,000-dot 3" screen and HD video are huge advantages. I believe Nikon's optics will be at least as good as G11. Interesting to see what G12 brings.


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Sep 08, 2010 14:04 as a reply to  @ amobnaij's post |  #7

It's a blatant design knockoff of the Canon G-series. The layout is nothing like the Coolpix P5100 or p6000. Well.. imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

In biology, we call this convergent evolution... where designs converge based on function.


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Sep 08, 2010 18:34 |  #8
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bkdc wrote in post #10872725 (external link)
It's a blatant design knockoff of the Canon G-series. The layout is nothing like the Coolpix P5100 or p6000. Well.. imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

In biology, we call this convergent evolution... where designs converge based on function.

You might want to get your eyes checked. The difference in design is quite substantial to be called "knockoff". Nikon actually knows how to design a camera. Look at the place on the back to place your thumb on. That's exactly Canon designer should copy.


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Sep 08, 2010 19:00 |  #9

amobnaij wrote in post #10874294 (external link)
You might want to get your eyes checked. The difference in design is quite substantial to be called "knockoff". Nikon actually knows how to design a camera. Look at the place on the back to place your thumb on. That's exactly Canon designer should copy.

Uh yeah.

I know Nikon can design cameras. I'd love to have a Nikon D700 body with the Canon lens line. But the Nikon P7000 has suddenly morphed toward being a G-series Powershot. You can stay in denial. The Powershot G has been a slow evolution of the same design, but Nikon has made a significant change in its P7000... and this is probably a good thing.


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Sep 08, 2010 19:04 |  #10

Don't forget three big things:

1. The Nikon can be controlled by remote.

2. Autofocus AND zooming are FUNCTIONAL during filming of video.

3. An external microphone can be plugged in. You could set it up wirelessly and mic someone through a lapel mic or any other kind of wireless system. This would allow for field interviews while setting the camera on a tripod.

The P7000 kicks the G11's butt.

BUT how will Canon up the ante?


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Sep 08, 2010 20:57 |  #11

Nikon P7000 won my vote for now. It's very close to a perfect all around Digital Camera for travel light. If G12 can't match, I will go for a P7000 for some travel uses or for the days that I don't want to bring my DSLR backpack. It's sample pictures on dp look good too. So, now gotta wait for G12. I actually doubt that the G12 will have a super zoom lens (with f/2.8 on the wide end). Never owned an advanced prosumer P&S after the SONY F828 and I feel quite excited after reading the P7000 preview on dp... Canon, come on let's catch up in the next annoucement with something more interesting than the unneccessary unreacheable super long reach upgrades, a disappointed 60D and a super niched 8-15 extreme wide zoom...


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Sep 08, 2010 21:28 |  #12

The features and specs look excellent but an articulating display would be nice. I'd hate to give mine up.
Now.. if the P7000 actually takes good pictures, then Canon has something to worry about.




  
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Sep 08, 2010 22:05 |  #13

hi there, any one knows when g12 will be announced. I thought today is the day but nothing :(


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Sep 08, 2010 22:08 |  #14

MikeFairbanks wrote in post #10874448 (external link)
Don't forget three big things:

1. The Nikon can be controlled by remote.

2. Autofocus AND zooming are FUNCTIONAL during filming of video.

3. An external microphone can be plugged in. You could set it up wirelessly and mic someone through a lapel mic or any other kind of wireless system. This would allow for field interviews while setting the camera on a tripod.

The P7000 kicks the G11's butt.

BUT how will Canon up the ante?

I agree and unless I understood it wrong it also fires flash wirelessly and I think the audio for video is in stereo...


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Sep 08, 2010 22:19 |  #15

The sound potential is unlimited. You can get a good field recorder (the kind that make it so you hear a bug munching on a leaf), hook it up through a wireless system (or corded) and film bugs in macro mode. Or walk around with a Shure Dynamic wireless microphone (about 130 bucks) and interview people. Not bad.

Canon needs to stop holding out, regardless of the marketplace. They'll make more by throwing in everything they can. It's one thing if you can't squeeze it in, but if you can, do it. And if you want people to upgrade a year later, think up something new.


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