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Sep 09, 2010 13:48 |  #16

Excuse my English, I'm from Brazil.


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Sep 09, 2010 14:01 |  #17

Here are lenses that seem to be mentioned very frequently here on POTN. Note that the EF-S lenses can only be used on 1.6 crop cameras like the 7D. The prices are from www.adorama.com (external link) in U.S. dollars.

Wide-angle to medium zooms:
EF-S 15-85 f/3.5-5.6 IS - $720
EF 16-35 f/2.8L (better for low light without flash) - $1520
EF 17-40 f/4L - $739
EF-S 17-55 f/2.8 IS (better for low light without flash) - $1060
EF 24-70 f/2.8L - $1349 (probably not wide enough on a crop camera, so only consider for a full frame like the 5D)
EF 24-105 f/4L IS - $1059 (like the 24-70, probably not wide enough on a crop camera)

Telephoto zooms:
EF 70-200 f/2.8L - $1300
EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS - $1899
EF 70-200 f/2.8L IS II - $2299

Primes:
Sigma 30 f/1.4 EX DC HSM - $439
EF 50 f/1.8 II - $89.95
EF-S 60 f/2.8 Macro - $395
EF 85 f/1.8 (there's also the EF 85 f/1.2L II but it's over $2,000) - $379.95
EF 100 f/2.8 Macro - $519
EF 100 f/2.8L Macro IS - $944


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Sep 09, 2010 14:02 |  #18

wilsonfe wrote in post #10879506 (external link)
What do you think of this lens considering the price?
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That's an extremely good zoom lens, but maybe not the best for weddings unless outdoors. The f/2.8 70-200s (there are IS and non-IS versions) are better in lower light.


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Sep 09, 2010 14:06 |  #19

I'd suggest posting your lens questions in the wedding https://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdis​play.php?f=113 and people https://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdis​play.php?f=111 forums for more specific advice. You'll also get better advice if you post a budget of how much you have to spend.


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Sep 09, 2010 14:37 |  #20

Tkx Stsva!


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Sep 09, 2010 15:43 |  #21

Yeah, it would be a good idea to post to the wedding forum...

But meanwhile, yes. 5DII would be an excellent choice for wedding photography and portraiture. Actually it would probably be better than the 7D in many respects. I use a pair of 7D, but I think they are more designed with sports and action in mind. Hopefully you won't have too runaway brides to worry about! ;) Also, for portraiture in particular, a full frame camera gives you more complete control over depth of field, which can be quite useful. f2.8 on a crop sensor camera like 7D is approx. equal to f4 on a full frame.

Personally a couple big reasons I held off buying 5D and waited for 5DII were: self-cleaning sensor/dust control and Micro Adjust. 5DII would also be the winner if you expect to sell large prints. Not that the classic isn't very capable... just that the newer camera is even more capable.

If you often run into situation where you need to shoot by available light (no flash), both 5D would be good. 5DII would even be better than 7D in that respect, probably about one stop's worth without exceptional post processing (using noise reduction softwares, for example). The 5D classic simply runs out of high ISO where you can continue to dial the 5DII higher. 5D's ISO range is 50 to 3200. The Mark II's is 50 to 25600. I'll leave it to your judgment how usable the higher ISOs are for your purposes. I'll use my Mark II to 6400 without much concern. In comparison, I'll use 7D to 3200 and it's available range is 100 to 12800.

I think the 5D classic is a 12 bit camera, while both the 7D and 5DII are 14 bit. This simply makes for more tonalities. The higher bit count can show up as smoother tonal gradations if cropping and/or printing large.

Of course, the 5DII has Canon's currently largest full frame sensor... 21MP. The classic is 13MP, which is certainly enough for many purposes.


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Sep 09, 2010 18:34 |  #22

5d has superior image quality, but you pay for it.


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Sep 09, 2010 18:39 |  #23

wilsonfe wrote in post #10879512 (external link)
Excuse my English, I'm from Brazil.

Not a problem , your first post was confusing but you're doing much better now .

Welcome to the forum ! :cool:




  
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Sep 09, 2010 20:01 |  #24

Word salad? English?


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Sep 09, 2010 21:14 |  #25

OK i get it now. When you said 'I will work with my wife in marriage' you meant you and your wife shoot weddings. I'd go with 5D. It's still a great camera!




  
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