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Sep 09, 2010 09:58 |  #1

Which one would you recommend? Is the elite worth the $50ish or so premium?


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Sep 09, 2010 12:16 |  #2

I would also like to know this!


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Sep 09, 2010 12:21 |  #3

So come on then, calibration experts help us out :)


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Sep 09, 2010 13:28 |  #4

merlin2375 wrote in post #10878163 (external link)
Which one would you recommend?

ColorMunki.


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Sep 09, 2010 14:02 |  #5

Thanks for the help, a bit more than I'd like to spend.


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Sep 09, 2010 14:52 as a reply to  @ e02937's post |  #6

Are you using a typical 8 or 6 bit normal gamut LCD? Then I'd go with an X-Rite iOne Display 2.

But if you have to get a Spyder product for whatever reason, the Spyder3 Pro should suffice. If you are using a Mac display, I'd suggest the Spyder3 Elite because it can control the monitor Brightness automatically.

If you are using a high end monitor, invest in the manufacturer's own integrated calibration system.


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Sep 09, 2010 14:54 |  #7

I'm not using anything special as far as monitors go. It's a run of the mill Dell Widescreen monitor (model is s2009w)

http://www.dell.com …dell-s2009wfp&cs=22&s=dfh (external link)

I'm not hell bent on a spyder, but they seem to be reviewed and popular (as do the Xrites, but the spyders are better priced).


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Sep 09, 2010 14:58 |  #8

Color Gamut (Typical) 85%, I can't find anything (yet) on how many bits it is


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Sep 09, 2010 15:04 |  #9

merlin2375 wrote in post #10879915 (external link)
Color Gamut (Typical) 85%, I can't find anything (yet) on how many bits it is

That model is an 8 bit (per channel), TN paneled display. You may initially be dismayed after calibrating it because the colors will not be as vibrant.

merlin2375 wrote in post #10879898 (external link)
I'm not hell bent on a spyder, but they seem to be reviewed and popular (as do the Xrites, but the spyders are better priced).

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …_Colorimeter_Mo​nitor.html (external link)


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Sep 09, 2010 15:23 |  #10

Thanks for all of your help! The thing is, I realize the calibration won't be amazing from what I've gathered. I actually don't care much about how it looks on screen (it looks fine to me right now), I'm just trying to get my prints to come out the way they appear on screen.

When you say it won't be as vibrant you mean you think the monitor will look worse?
Do you think it's worth the money?


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Sep 09, 2010 17:38 |  #11

merlin2375 wrote in post #10880054 (external link)
When you say it won't be as vibrant you mean you think the monitor will look worse?

I took a few minutes to follow your link and read Dell's description of your monitor... It talks about Bright and Vibrant and Saturated. It mentions the 300cd/m2 luminance. I didn't see anywhere that it used the word "accurate". Calibrated for color and white balance, the colors will not look as eye-popping vibrant. And when you lower the luminance, it will initially look dull, but you'll soon get used to it.

Do you think it's worth the money?

The monitor? Sure... if you were looking for a gaming monitor. For photo editing, and in particular for monitor/print matching, not the best choice.

A better choice for an entry level monitor:

http://accessories.us.​dell.com …s&cs=19&l=en&sk​u=320-9270 (external link)


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Sep 09, 2010 17:40 |  #12

Thanks again for sticking with me. I meant do you think it's worth getting a color calibrator tool like the xrite or the spyder3 or any other one for that matter with this monitor. I already own the monitor.

I could just as well save the $200 I would spend on the calibrator and put it towards an IPS monitor but then I'd have to wait before I bought the calibrator tool. But then I'm not sure I'm any better off?


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Sep 09, 2010 17:56 as a reply to  @ e02937's post |  #13

Yeah, it's absolutely worth it. I think a decent calibration device can outlast a couple LCD monitors. And calibration is not a one time thing. You do it about once a month.


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Sep 09, 2010 20:58 as a reply to  @ ChasP505's post |  #14

Spyder 3 products got updated with a new version for the pro at least, that it can control automatically the brightness etc.. for a laptop (mines a macbook pro) so you dont need to spend the extra $$ for the elite. I'm sure the elite got upgraded with something though so that it can justify the extra $$.

I'd buy a calibrator first before an IPS monitor. You will be surprised how "off" your monitor is once you calibrate. Also, once calibrated, it will look weird to you because it changes the colour casts etc.. and gets rid of them. I recommend using your computer for whatever for about an hour to get used to the colour difference.


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Sep 09, 2010 21:21 |  #15

a quick question, does spyder2pro be good enough for macbook pro?

since I could get spyder2pro for much cheaper.


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