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clients wants to bring police officer companion to boudoir shoot

 
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Sep 10, 2010 09:00 |  #1

I was contacted by someone that wants me to take boudoir pictures of them for a gift for their husband. She asked to see my picture and facebook page to see who I was, and I showed her.

I suggested a pre-shoot meeting to make introductions and she agreed. I also offered to send her references of models I have worked with in the past, and suggested she bring a companion to the shoot.

So I get a response basically saying that she is not interested in the references because how will she know if they are real or not. I suppose this is true, but to be so blunt about it is kind of insulting that there is zero trust here. She also said she is bringing a companion, and who better than a police officer! Ok, so I am getting the feeling that I am being tested and interrogated here. I don't know how comfortable I am with this, but I feel if I say anything negative about it she will just think it's more reason not to trust me. What would you do?




  
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Sep 10, 2010 09:04 |  #2

If you have nothing to hide I would say let the officer come and be her companion. Might just be a friend who happens to be a police officer. Was this communication held over the phone or via email? Remember a lot of context can be lost via text alone. She could even just be playing around with you.




  
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Sep 10, 2010 09:04 |  #3

Say adios and thanks for the inquiry.

Can you work with someone who doesn't trust you and has someone watching over your shoulder? If she said she would bring a friend to help with her make up, I think would work, but a police officer? Raises the flags of uh oh. Unless she wants to use the officer's uniform..


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Sep 10, 2010 09:15 |  #4

Tell her to get a tripod and wireless remote, that way she can take her own pics...

Sounds like trouble...I'd run not walk


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Sep 10, 2010 09:19 as a reply to  @ e02937's post |  #5

Yeah, I am thinking of bailing, just not sure how to put it in terms so she doesn't walk away thinking I am shady.




  
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Sep 10, 2010 09:25 as a reply to  @ USER876's post |  #6

Don't be insulted that she's being careful about her safety. At this point, you haven't even met her for a consultation. Depending on where you're meeting her, that can be a safety issue for a woman in itself.

Yes, I think she's checking your reaction to having a police officer at the consultation. But how is that a big deal? If you are going to act sketchy over that, it does serve to create suspicion.

What if you were shooting a high school senior and she wanted to have a parent present? The basic issue for her--personal safety--is the same. When that high school senior is two years older, that changes nothing in regard to her personal safety, except that she might have to find someone else other than a parent.


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Sep 10, 2010 09:36 |  #7

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Say adios and thanks for the inquiry.

Can you work with someone who doesn't trust you and has someone watching over your shoulder? If she said she would bring a friend to help with her make up, I think would work, but a police officer? Raises the flags of uh oh. Unless she wants to use the officer's uniform..

+ I ... no sense in working with that type of atmosphere in the first place...

NEXT client please.


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Sep 10, 2010 09:43 |  #8

This is showing how difficult she will be after the session...

If you don't feel comfortable, that's a sign, go with you gut, it will never steer you wrong! You have the right to choose your clients, find somebody else. I am sure she can find another photographer too.

Tell her something came up and you won't be available.


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Sep 10, 2010 10:08 |  #9
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I do not see the problem here. If you cancel now she will think her suspicions were right and that is what she will tell people.


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Sep 10, 2010 10:16 as a reply to  @ locky's post |  #10

Hmmmm, seems like the crowd is split 50/50 on this one. I agree, she will think her suspicious are right and I wouldn't want to give her that satisifaction. I have to think how to approach this......




  
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Sep 10, 2010 10:20 |  #11

Hey maybe its a female police officer and your shoot just got a whole lot better!


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Sep 10, 2010 10:23 |  #12

First, I have to ask. Am I the only one who thought "hey, so you'll have some handcuffs to use as props" when I saw "police officer" and "boudoir" in the same post? (Edit: MJF830 posted while I was typing and I see I'm not the only one)

As to the escort being a (presumably off duty) police officer, I don't see any issue there. Either the escort sits in the corner and stays out of the way or they interfere with the shoot and you tell them both to leave. Require a deposit up front and make it clear in the contract that the deposit is forfeit if the client aborts or if any "guests" that the client brings interfere in the shoot.


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Sep 10, 2010 10:32 |  #13

As a woman, I would be checking up on you as well. There is no way that I would be getting partially/fully nude in front of someone that I didn't absolutely, 100%, fully trust with my safety. And that's not just at the time of the shoot, but with my photos afterwards as well. Seeing a picture of you goes a long way in that checking up too. Not to be biased, but just from personal history, there are some types of looks that just come across as creepy to me. Personally, I would have taken you up on some of the contacts, but as she said, there is no way to truly know if they are real or fake contacts. Having a cop friend come along is convenience for her. I have some friends in the law, and I would bring them too. She may be using it as a 'scare tactic' towards you, but you shouldn't be scared. IF you are an upright, honest, professional, SAFE person to work with. This is what she is looking for. If you drop out at the mere mention of a cop, then you will be telling her that you are not someone to be trusted. That you want to run/hide from the law.
There is a chance that she may be a b-witch to work with, but on the other hand, she may be totally awesome and when she discovers that you are indeed great to work with will go and tell all her friends that she found someone totally trustworthy.
I have zero trust in you too. You need to prove that you are trustworthy. Just one of those ways that women work.


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Sep 10, 2010 10:32 as a reply to  @ krb's post |  #14

My gut reaction would be to walk away and find another client that is more comfortable with what they're doing; but then, when I think about it, it's actually a really good opportunity to help someone out. This woman is obviously frightened by the idea of doing this sort of shoot, but wants to do it at the same time.

So, I'd go ahead with the pre-shoot meeting, at the very least, and make your introductions, chat, etc. Then see how things go; just remember, you're not working with a professional model on something like this and go easy on her. She's already nervous, so if *you* aren't at ease, she will have a harder time with it as well.


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Sep 10, 2010 10:40 |  #15

And, btw, you suggested that she bring someone else along. So it's a police officer instead of a Wal-mart cashier--what's that to you? A police officer may be the best bet for both of you.

Heck, now that I think of it, making friends with female police officers and offering them off-duty gigs doing security for my boudoir shoots is an idea to consider.


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