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How to Record the Cops

 
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Sep 21, 2010 08:40 |  #1

Saw this on gizmodo. An interesting read...

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Sep 21, 2010 09:08 |  #2

Very handy devices to have on or about you if you are in the business of photography in the public arena (news coverage, etc).


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Sep 21, 2010 10:27 |  #3

Wait, I don't understand... why on earth don't the police want to be taped or photographed?




  
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Sep 21, 2010 10:36 |  #4

Kronie wrote in post #10949174 (external link)
Wait, I don't understand... why on earth don't the police want to be taped or photographed?

same reason all crooks & cons don't want to be filmed


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Sep 21, 2010 11:23 |  #5

[Hyuni wrote:
='[Hyuni];10949220']sa​me reason all crooks & cons don't want to be filmed

I hope I dont get arrested one day, for me carrying a voice recorder in my car to tape whenever (hopefully not) I get pulled over by a cop and I want to recount the incident.


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Sep 21, 2010 12:14 |  #6

professorman wrote in post #10949534 (external link)
I hope I dont get arrested one day, for me carrying a voice recorder in my car to tape whenever (hopefully not) I get pulled over by a cop and I want to recount the incident.

Just make sure you know your state's laws regarding consent on tape recording encounters with other people. IOW, does your state allow single consent, meaning only one party needs to know that the encounter is being recorded. Or, does your state law require that notice be given to the other party that the encounter is being recorded. Know this and be guided accordingly. I see this a lot on firearms forums.




  
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Sep 21, 2010 15:57 |  #7

What would the states laws matter though if the officer just took the camera or the images/videos, arresting you and then releasing you two hours later minus your images. There not making arrests for conviction, there arresting to protect there privacy.

Are you really going to spend the time and the money to go after the police like that for a wrongful arrest? When your released two hours later? No your not, and the police know it.

"Here is your camera back. Not sure what happened to the memory card..... Sorry, have a nice day".




  
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Sep 21, 2010 16:24 |  #8

Sandisk RescuePRO, the Five-O's new #1 enemy :lol:


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Sep 21, 2010 17:13 |  #9

I know a lot of cops, and there's one thing I've learned in all my years: They don't trust anyone.

And they admit it to me. I have had three cop friends, and I asked them, "you think everyone is lying, don't you?" They all said the same thing: Everyone IS lying.

That job will mess you up.

Not that it's their fault. Criminals reak havoc upon the world.

Cameras are a mixed bag. Privacy, protection. Where is the line.


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Sep 21, 2010 17:54 |  #10

MikeFairbanks wrote in post #10951716 (external link)
They all said the same thing: Everyone IS lying.
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That is why we sometimes needs to protect ourselves from them too. They are included in the EVERYONE is lying. The tape does not lie.


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Sep 21, 2010 18:03 |  #11

professorman wrote in post #10949534 (external link)
I hope I dont get arrested one day, for me carrying a voice recorder in my car to tape whenever (hopefully not) I get pulled over by a cop and I want to recount the incident.

Recording audio follows different rules. Recording somebody's voice without their consent is illegal pretty much everywhere.


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Sep 21, 2010 18:32 |  #12

uOpt wrote in post #10951991 (external link)
Recording audio follows different rules. Recording somebody's voice without their consent is illegal pretty much everywhere.

http://www.rcfp.org/ta​ping/states.html (external link)

My state is one party consent. I consent :lol:

EDIT: From the states that I travel between, from Pennsylvania to South Carolina on the east coast, only PA and MD require both party consent.

United States Telephone Recording Laws (external link)

The U.S. federal law allows recording of phone calls and other electronic communications with the consent of at least one party to the call. A majority of the states and territories have adopted wiretapping statutes based on the federal law, although most have also extended the law to cover in-person conversations. 38 states and the D.C. permit recording telephone conversations to which they are a party without informing the other parties that they are doing so.

12 states require, under most circumstances, the consent of all parties to a conversation. Those jurisdictions are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Washington.

It is illegal under all jurisdictions to record calls in which one is not a party.

A complete state-by-state set of regulations regarding telephone call recording may be obtained in the following report published by The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press:


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Sep 21, 2010 19:58 |  #13

The one party consent and all party consent laws are limited to private interactions. Interactions with in public aren't supposed to fall under these laws. By law, public interaction is fair game everywhere and as far as I know in every state. Not surprisingly, those in law enforcement have twisted those laws and bent them to their favor. Take the case of Anthony Graber for instance. What he did was legal. The officer knows it was legal. The prosecutor knows it was legal. They just want to twist it to give him a hard time.


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Sep 21, 2010 22:16 |  #14

MikeFairbanks wrote in post #10951716 (external link)
And they admit it to me. I have had three cop friends, and I asked them, "you think everyone is lying, don't you?" They all said the same thing: Everyone IS lying.

Sounds like my job...I teach high school. :cry:


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Sep 22, 2010 00:25 as a reply to  @ tstowe's post |  #15
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The time for this technology has come.

The pendulum has begun to swing closer to equilibrium.

Bad news for scumball cops....Yay...

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