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Sep 29, 2010 18:54 |  #241

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I hope they come with a firware update for the 5D MKII, it would be nice to have electronic level and the different in camera setting such as the tilt shift lense...



Again, without a gyroscope hidden inside there a firmware update isn't going to do it.


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Sep 29, 2010 20:42 |  #242

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If only it was a 7D Jr! ;)

But it's not, and that's all there is to it!

I know many wished it has some of the 7D features, bit in that respect it did fall short.

It's a damn good camera for where Canon intended it to go, in the hands of a Rebel owner or a first time DSLR user.

I won't own one, or use one because Canon did not intend it for me, but I'm not gonna bash it.

I will promote it to those Canon intended it for.

I'm an curious as to why you would promote this camera when the Nikon D7000 seems to be a much better value for pretty much the same price.




  
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Sep 29, 2010 20:51 |  #243

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Again, without a gyroscope hidden inside there a firmware update isn't going to do it.

There isn't a gyroscope in the 7D or 60D, that would kill the battery.

Look up "Liquid capacitive inclinometers"

But your point is valid, that particular feature would require hardware.


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Sep 29, 2010 22:27 |  #244

TeamSpeed wrote in post #11004309 (external link)
There isn't a gyroscope in the 7D or 60D, that would kill the battery.

Look up "Liquid capacitive inclinometers"

But your point is valid, that particular feature would require hardware.

What makes you think a gyro would kill the battery?




  
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Sep 29, 2010 22:49 |  #245

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What makes you think a gyro would kill the battery?

What else would keep it spinning?


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Sep 30, 2010 06:39 |  #246

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What else would keep it spinning?

Maybe in the era of steam.

Virtually all high performance gyros are solid state, have been for years. Take a look at any radio controlled helicopter. The actual sensor is a tiny SMT component and can be installed onto a PCB.




  
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Sep 30, 2010 06:44 |  #247

Question: Is there anyone who, if offered a 50D or 60D at the same price would purchase the 50D over the 60D?


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Sep 30, 2010 06:57 |  #248

archiebald wrote in post #11006660 (external link)
Maybe in the era of steam.

Virtually all high performance gyros are solid state, have been for years. Take a look at any radio controlled helicopter. The actual sensor is a tiny SMT component and can be installed onto a PCB.

If it's solid state then it's not a real gyro then is it. A gyro is something that moves hey.


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Sep 30, 2010 07:27 |  #249

Destractions wrote in post #11003687 (external link)
Again, without a gyroscope hidden inside there a firmware update isn't going to do it.

I read this thinking it was a joke, but now I suspect it is a serious remark.
I have a hard time believing that the 7D has a gyroscope.. However, hardware is required for the level, I suspect that takes the form of a couple of acceleraometers -- not a gyroscope.

All of the i-junk use acceleraometers to do the levels, etc.

According to Wikipedia, some of the Canon Point-and-shoots have accelerometers: http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Accelerometer (external link)


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Sep 30, 2010 07:29 |  #250

hqqns wrote in post #11006739 (external link)
If it's solid state then it's not a real gyro then is it. A gyro is something that moves hey.

Ever heard of piezo electric devices?

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Sep 30, 2010 07:39 |  #251

hqqns wrote in post #11006739 (external link)
A gyro is something that moves hay.

Or a sammich.

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Sep 30, 2010 07:44 |  #252

hqqns wrote in post #11006739 (external link)
...A gyro is something that moves hey.

Dave1 wrote in post #11006865 (external link)
Or a sammich.

If my gyro moves, I'm not eating there anymore... ;)


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Sep 30, 2010 08:55 as a reply to  @ Destractions's post |  #253

the 60D was the antichrist around here until D7000 came out, when people became suddenly defensive of it--realizing nikon had a better product.




  
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Sep 30, 2010 08:57 |  #254

hairy_moth wrote in post #11006831 (external link)
I read this thinking it was a joke, but now I suspect it is a serious remark.
I have a hard time believing that the 7D has a gyroscope.. However, hardware is required for the level, I suspect that takes the form of a couple of acceleraometers -- not a gyroscope.

All of the i-junk use acceleraometers to do the levels, etc.

According to Wikipedia, some of the Canon Point-and-shoots have accelerometers: http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Accelerometer (external link)


Does this sound like a joke? :rolleyes:

A minor but handy feature new to the 60D is an electronic level, which will help you take pictures—or hang them in your home. The level functions via an internal gyroscope, which only works when you hold the camera horizontally.
http://www.digitalcame​rainfo.com …Review-21883/Controls.htm (external link)


Well my iPhone 4 actually does have a gyroscope in it, just like the Ipad and the new Ipod G4s, and for those that think they have to be "mechanical" look it up, that's incorrect. Either way the point is without some hardware in there it's not going to happen with a simple firmware update.


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There isn't a gyroscope in the 7D or 60D, that would kill the battery. .

Well, tell it to the site above and the many other reporting the same info. I'm not sure whether it does or doesn't as that isn't my forte' however it isn't completely inconceivable.

Since this forum is obviously full of electrical engineers in their off time maybe someone could explain to me how MFA is performed in the camera and how it is entirely software based?


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Sep 30, 2010 09:04 as a reply to  @ Destractions's post |  #255

all this talk of gyros... damn you folks! :D

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