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Oct 01, 2010 12:44 |  #1

http://www.psfk.com …nt-for-scanning-only.html (external link)

"Porta 400 was created to both cater to the resurgence of film use amongst photographers,"

which ones? pros? studio? wedding? family snap shots? using what cameras?
So you need a scanner? which one? a negative scanner, or will a printer/scanner do fine? Overall, what's the point of this?

http://www.switched.co​m …-for-scanning-not-printi/ (external link)

There is renewed interest in records(LPs) as well. In fact, J&R has moved them from the back to the front of the store. IMHO, it's just a fad. Yes, LPs play at 48KHZ, but humans cant even hear the difference betweem a 160kh MP3 and a WAV.

BTW, how about bringing back slide and APS film as well?




  
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Oct 01, 2010 12:54 |  #2

I love film.


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Oct 01, 2010 13:02 |  #3

It's dead, Jim.




  
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Oct 01, 2010 13:11 |  #4

Explain the apparently essential scanner to me again. I must have missed something because I thought this was about film?

I admit I went to digital processing before I bought a digital camera, but if there is a resurgence (and good for them if there is) then lets see them do the lot, wet darkrooms and all.


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Oct 01, 2010 13:18 |  #5

Film will never die... NEVER!!! :p

Tell this guy http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Peter_Lik (external link) film is dead :p

he uses one of these... well an older one I think.
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Oct 01, 2010 16:41 |  #6

dynamic range? grain?

hell knows.

i love my f5. but i wouldn't go through all that trouble. and don't negative scanners create artifact?




  
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Oct 01, 2010 16:47 |  #7

I still have a Petri 7s 35mm rangefinder and a Yashica mat 124 that uses 120 roll film just in case film actually does return from the dead . I mught have a fight on my hands getting my Minolta SRT 101 outfit back from my youngest daughter however.


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Oct 01, 2010 16:55 |  #8
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Retro is King.
But what Hobby photogs and the commerical market does are two differ things.


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Oct 01, 2010 20:42 |  #9

J_TULLAR wrote in post #11015372 (external link)
Film will never die... NEVER!!! :p

Tell this guy http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Peter_Lik (external link) film is dead :p

he uses one of these... well an older one I think.
http://www.linhof.de/t​echnorama-e.html (external link)


I saw his gallery in Vegas. Some nice photos, some average. I dont know about making $150m from that stuff.




  
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Oct 01, 2010 21:09 |  #10

Gomar wrote in post #11015136 (external link)
...There is renewed interest in records(LPs) as well. In fact, J&R has moved them from the back to the front of the store. IMHO, it's just a fad. Yes, LPs play at 48KHZ, but humans cant even hear the difference betweem a 160kh MP3 and a WAV...

Vinyl’s resurgence has been an on and off occurrence for nearly the past 20 years, not sure if it is just a fad, and if it is, it's one that appears to be perpetually reoccurring. That one can go into a mainstream joint (Best Buy for example) and find major recording artists on vinyl LPs nearly three decades after the commercial introduction of CDs marks a pretty good run.

Anyway, as long as I am using film, it’s alive.


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Oct 01, 2010 21:50 |  #11
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^^^
I don't think it's all about nostalgia although some of it is obviously, but mainly I think it's a bit like food photography, it doesn't look delicious unless there are a few crumbs on the plate, I think people get tired of seeing and hearing things that are too perfect, and instead prefer something that seems more human, warm and crafted, rather than clinical, cold and perfect.

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Oct 01, 2010 22:49 |  #12

Well I've been chasing what I had with a Mamiya 645 Super for years now. Used a old school Sekor C 150mm 3.5 at a nice parade one day and the results were absolutely amazing and sad to say I am not getting that kind of experience in DSLR ville no matter what lens I throw in front of this thing. Now maybe that's sheer laziness on my part but I've been struggling for years with pixel mush. Only wide lenses give me the DOF I am long lusting for. Perhaps I am heading to a digital MF and/or back to film to force me to be a better photographer and to make each grain count because it actually exists in the first place.




  
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Oct 02, 2010 05:37 |  #13

jetcode,

Good for you. I am sorry to have to admit my film camera has not been used for a good 3 months and even then I use a Nikon coolscan V ED to digitise the results. My big problem with film is the appalling processing being done locally. I've had 6 velvia films returned in one batch with the emulsion as black as coal and wrinkled like an elephants hide. The fact that I got 6 "cheapy rubbish" replacement films is supposed to compensate me? And I only got that after I kicked up a fuss.

Even if the temperatures were right, the films always get scratched to hell going through the machinery. I think its the processing which will kill off film in the longer term and the only folk still using it will be forced to do the processing themselves.


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Oct 02, 2010 11:36 as a reply to  @ Lowner's post |  #14

Lowner,

I live near S.F. and for some reason there is always at least one lab who does hand processed film developing and for sheet color film it's a real blessing. I process my own 4x10 B/W sheets 2 at a time in a 8x10 print developer tube. Haven't had to process 120 or 35mm in quite some time. I have a Cezanne Elite with this trilinear CCD which is in effect better than the CCD's that end up in the very pricey MF backs. No Bayer filtering and 8000x3 9um pixels with hard core flat bed motion control. The scanner weights 160lbs. Awesome light sources too.

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Oct 02, 2010 15:49 |  #15

there might be a fad going back to film, but its a small fad. and most of the time, people gives it up as well since its more hassle and more expensive to do so, amateurs that is. but if a person is a tried and true photographer....meanin​g they started out on film, then yeah, they will continue to do so and think its not a hassle. being in the darkroom and processing the images you have taken is somewhat of a euphoric feeling for some people. and those are the people that will stay with film.

Vinyls will forever be there. because there are factions of people going back to it. the music lovers, the DJs amongst the few.

Peter Lik has captured great images, but he's no Ansel Adams....neither am i.


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