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Oct 07, 2010 02:32 |  #16

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Martin google a bleach pass, it's not to involved.
Dan, I understand what you are saying but you trying asking a bunch of people at a local skatepark to not skate in a particular part of the park so you can take pictures, and see what happens.

Thank you for the pointer, will see what I can find..


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Oct 07, 2010 03:31 |  #17

No worries man, sorry I didn't explain it properly in my last post, I was at work. It's basically a replication of the old bleach by pass used in film processing. Back then it did exactly what it says it does, you would skip the bleaching part of processing the film. In photoshop however you can replicate it by playing with desaturation some overlay filters and a high pass filter. There are heaps of tutorials on the net though.


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Oct 07, 2010 03:45 |  #18

Nice set. I have tried to capture compelling skate shots several times and I just can't seem to nail it down. Maybe a good project for me to continue.


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Oct 07, 2010 04:21 |  #19

It's all about the timing haha.


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Oct 07, 2010 10:32 as a reply to  @ midduke's post |  #20

I know what you mean about asking people to move, but it is possible. It can be a pain though sometimes.

It wasnt just the people that made it clutterd. Maybe trying shooting lower down so you can see the ledge, but the skater or bmxer have the sky for the background.

Or try shooting higher so you have the concrete floor as a background and would give a diferent perspective.

Skateparks are far from the best places to shoot as they tend to be real busy and the background usual look nasty unless you get a decent compostion.


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Oct 07, 2010 14:21 as a reply to  @ danpayneuk's post |  #21

great pics I would move back further and crop less since is always good to see where the skater will end at the end of the trick;)


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Oct 07, 2010 19:57 |  #22

Great set! and loving the pp on these. :)


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Oct 08, 2010 09:19 as a reply to  @ danpayneuk's post |  #23

The problem is that a skate park is typically filled with ramps, pipes, rails, etc, so there really is nothing you can do about that, its like going into the woods and shooting mountain biking, try making the background clear without a ton of trees screwing up your comp.

Personally I think this is a great set, background isn't crazy busy, just looks like a skate park (which is fitting haha), I love the last two shots, really gives a "reach for the sky" type feel. Great set!


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Oct 08, 2010 20:59 |  #24

my only critique is to watch your backgrounds. If they're cluttered, try shooting a wider aperture to blur the background?

the last few shots are interesting, but I agree that I'd like to see where they're coming from. In the sky doesn't tell the whole story. Is he 2 feet above coping? or 10?


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Oct 08, 2010 23:10 |  #25

I agree, these are all really nice and good choice for neutral color scheme!!


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Oct 08, 2010 23:20 |  #26

Thanks a bunch for the feedback guys, it's really appreciated. I do agree to some extent about the background being busy, but I also believe the pictures has to tell a story and having the skatepark in the background adds to the story. Thanks again.


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Oct 09, 2010 01:27 |  #27

danpayneuk wrote in post #11051922 (external link)
I know what you mean about asking people to move, but it is possible. It can be a pain though sometimes.

It wasnt just the people that made it clutterd. Maybe trying shooting lower down so you can see the ledge, but the skater or bmxer have the sky for the background.

Or try shooting higher so you have the concrete floor as a background and would give a diferent perspective.

Skateparks are far from the best places to shoot as they tend to be real busy and the background usual look nasty unless you get a decent compostion.

I have to disagree with this completely... NEVER and I mean NEVER EVER ask people to move just so you can take shots. They will swear at you and most likely try and kick you out of the area. What you see is what you get and if you can't manage with the filled skate park, move somewhere else. Always show respect to the people there and in return you will get respect back. This is what I hate most about photographers (not saying you) but a lot of photographers do not know a lot or almost anything about the sport (same with reporters) and they disrespect the sport and athletes entirely without even knowing it. The reporters end up asking stupid/disrespectful questions from this because they don't know the game and don't think prior to what they ask. If you want to shoot a certain sport, always have a general idea of the sport, how the athletes would react, etc. I hate seeing photographers who think they can get away with anything and disrespect the sports and athletes completely. This is why so many athletes hate photographers is because they get in their faces.




  
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Oct 09, 2010 02:56 |  #28

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I have to disagree with this completely... NEVER and I mean NEVER EVER ask people to move just so you can take shots. They will swear at you and most likely try and kick you out of the area. What you see is what you get and if you can't manage with the filled skate park, move somewhere else. Always show respect to the people there and in return you will get respect back. This is what I hate most about photographers (not saying you) but a lot of photographers do not know a lot or almost anything about the sport (same with reporters) and they disrespect the sport and athletes entirely without even knowing it. The reporters end up asking stupid/disrespectful questions from this because they don't know the game and don't think prior to what they ask. If you want to shoot a certain sport, always have a general idea of the sport, how the athletes would react, etc. I hate seeing photographers who think they can get away with anything and disrespect the sports and athletes completely. This is why so many athletes hate photographers is because they get in their faces.

AMEN. Couldn't have said it better myself.


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Oct 09, 2010 07:41 |  #29

robie wrote in post #11062427 (external link)
I have to disagree with this completely... NEVER and I mean NEVER EVER ask people to move just so you can take shots. They will swear at you and most likely try and kick you out of the area. What you see is what you get and if you can't manage with the filled skate park, move somewhere else. Always show respect to the people there and in return you will get respect back. This is what I hate most about photographers (not saying you) but a lot of photographers do not know a lot or almost anything about the sport (same with reporters) and they disrespect the sport and athletes entirely without even knowing it. The reporters end up asking stupid/disrespectful questions from this because they don't know the game and don't think prior to what they ask. If you want to shoot a certain sport, always have a general idea of the sport, how the athletes would react, etc. I hate seeing photographers who think they can get away with anything and disrespect the sports and athletes completely. This is why so many athletes hate photographers is because they get in their faces.

Think we are better off to agree to disagree.

Im a bmxer and spend alot of time in skateparks. I shoot in them frequently as well. If I cant get the shot I am after coz of people in the way and its super busy I will just go back another time with the rider or skater. If its only a few people in the way, they pretty much dont mind moving for a few minutes, as they are intruiged by what we are doing.

If they refuse to move (which I havent found yet, but sure I will sooner or later) then you simply try something different or come back when its quieter.

Your not asking them to get out of the way for hours at a time. Using a bit of common sense and manners goes along way.


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