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Oct 11, 2010 18:39 |  #646

Also no fumbling around when at a shoot and still having to change lenses. Oh I need an 85 if it's a 7D or a 135 if it's going on my 5DII. I still haven't had a shoot since acquiring the 7D but I expect I will be doing a lot more thinking if it comes to having to change lenses on one or both bodies. This is not a good thing. I started going through some past shoots in my head and the combination of focal lengths I would need. One thing that popped into my head was, maybe, the need to buy a 10-22.

I bought a 7D because I thought it would add some versatility on a shoot and I also really needed a second body to minimize lens changes. If I was really smart I would have bought a second 5DII, just because the different sensor size is going to be confusing, at least in the beginning until I find a system that works, most of the time.

Although the 7D has some cool features I wouldn't miss them. We'll see.


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Oct 11, 2010 18:41 |  #647

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When your needs involve the best characteristics of only one kind of camera, and you absolutely need that type of camera with no downtime permitted.

I suppose i'm mistaking "backup camera" for "second camera"


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Oct 11, 2010 18:54 |  #648

All I'm saying is that I love my 1Ds over my previous XSi and 50D. All I care about is sharp, detailed and colorful representation of what I'm shooting and the 1Ds delivers in all of those aspects. Oh, and RAW editing is so much better and fun too with this FF.


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Oct 11, 2010 19:20 as a reply to  @ dandan1's post |  #649

thinking of picking up a used 5DC in the near future, i just want to experience the FF world and see how i like it i guess. :) at least i get the best of both worlds.




  
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Oct 11, 2010 19:27 |  #650

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I don't know how you shoot, but I get all great shots with my camera.


That wins for most comical line I've read on this site.


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Oct 12, 2010 08:41 |  #651

dandan1 wrote in post #11077787 (external link)
All I'm saying is that I love my 1Ds over my previous XSi and 50D. All I care about is sharp, detailed and colorful representation of what I'm shooting and the 1Ds delivers in all of those aspects. Oh, and RAW editing is so much better and fun too with this FF.

"this FF"? It's the same for any FF. I know 100% without a doubt I could tell the difference between a 7D and a 5DII shot, but nobody can tell the difference between a 5dII shot and a 1Ds shot.

I think the 1Ds is overkill, for ANY application.


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Oct 12, 2010 08:50 as a reply to  @ crobs808's post |  #652

I think the 1Ds is overkill, for ANY application.

I think it works well for that Vogue editorial spread shot on location in a Taliban-held mountain village on the Pakistan/Afghanistan border.




  
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Oct 12, 2010 08:55 |  #653

I hear there is a waiting list to book that location ;-)a


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Oct 12, 2010 09:08 |  #654

ProD1gy_KiD wrote in post #11077919 (external link)
thinking of picking up a used 5DC in the near future, i just want to experience the FF world and see how i like it i guess. :) at least i get the best of both worlds.

If you are a fan of the new controls (30D, 40D or 50D, etc...) then you will be very disappointed with the 5D classic. Of course, the IQ jump is very much worth the "upgrade", you just have to be happier with a duller and smaller LCD, older Digic processor, etc...

I consider it an "upgrade" since it is a crop to a FF. I would rather own a 5D classic than a 7D any day of the week.


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Oct 12, 2010 09:12 |  #655

How often does anyone actually go into the menus. I do so only to check the battery status on my 5DII/7D or, rarely, to format the card (I almost always just delete on my PC).

Of all the cameras I have owned, I prefer the menu ssytem on the 5D the most. Simple, less crap, easy to find what you are looking for. The rear LCD is a handicap, though, but not a biggie (no pun intended).

Everything I need is available on a dial or button.


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Oct 12, 2010 09:14 |  #656

bohdank wrote in post #11081714 (external link)
How often does anyone actually go into the menus. I do so only to check the battery status on my 5DII/7D or, rarely, to format the card (I almost always just delete on my PC).

Of all the cameras I have owned, I prefer the menu ssytem on the 5D the most. Simple, less crap, easy to find what you are looking for. The rear LCD is a handicap, though, but not a biggie (no pun intended).

Everything I need is available on a dial or button.

The new menu structure is indeed nicer to some extent, the My Menu is the best part of the redesign, although I don't know why they have it restricted to such a few number of items. I can now put my most-used CF settings there, as well as MLU. Since I shoot different situations each day, I use some of those often as well as bracketing needs, etc. I haven't taken the time to put bracketing into one of the Cx slots. I either use menu or Q, whatever grabs me at the moment.


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Oct 12, 2010 09:21 |  #657

The new menu system was out of necessity, imo. There are tons of settings now...putting them in one scrollable list would have been less than user friendly although when I want to fool around and try something, usually in the first week I have a new camera, I spend a lot of time hunting for the setting I want to change.

Yes, the My Menu is the only place I go. Format/Battery Info/MLU/Liveview something or other (5DII).


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Oct 12, 2010 09:47 as a reply to  @ bohdank's post |  #658

"My Menu" is great. I'd also appreciate more C settings on the dial (they can get rid of the "creative" modes to make room). It would be nice if the top LCD had an indicator to show that you're in a "C" setting.




  
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Oct 12, 2010 09:52 |  #659

RDKirk wrote in post #11081910 (external link)
"My Menu" is great. I'd also appreciate more C settings on the dial (they can get rid of the "creative" modes to make room). It would be nice if the top LCD had an indicator to show that you're in a "C" setting.

That is an excellent idea! I even think they could come up with a new summary info screen that you could pull up once you moved to a C slot, which could serve to remind you what you have set up in that slot. At a minimum, allow a description to be entered.


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Oct 12, 2010 10:08 |  #660

crobs808 wrote in post #11081699 (external link)
If you are a fan of the new controls (30D, 40D or 50D, etc...) then you will be very disappointed with the 5D classic. Of course, the IQ jump is very much worth the "upgrade", you just have to be happier with a duller and smaller LCD, older Digic processor, etc...

I consider it an "upgrade" since it is a crop to a FF. I would rather own a 5D classic than a 7D any day of the week.

The 7D IQ is nothing short of great.. and it has better metering. But the 5D takes the edge.


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