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Oct 12, 2010 22:00 |  #1

I don't know if I'm seeking advice or just ranting, but here goes...

I have been approached by a person to purchase a photo of mine for a nearby Congressperson's re-election website. Unlimited non-exclusive web use. Talked with the guy today. They're purchasing three photos from three photographers. The other two have already sold.

He volunteered sale info. One shot was for $10. Might as well have given it away for free. Sheesh. :rolleyes:

The other was for $20. :-|

I told him that I'll seem expensive by comparison. I sold a similar shot for virtually identical purposes to the local state university earlier this year for $49... which is still kind cheap, I think, but I was satisfied with that.

He didn't like that answer. Talked about taxpayer money (not my problem) and questioned how many times I had already sold it (not his concern), then went on to say the complete overhaul of their website is going to cost a few thousand already.

I offered to split the difference and sell at $35. Not sure why I did that, but I did. Anyway, he said anything over $20 would be a no-go.

I told him I'd look into it and get back to him, but I'm seriously leaning toward declining the sale.

/rant off, I guess.


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Oct 12, 2010 22:05 |  #2

To paraphrase my mentor, a photo sale should at least be able to buy you a nice steak dinner, so I'd say no as well.

Edit: Another option would be to sell two/three photos at $20 each.




  
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Oct 12, 2010 22:10 |  #3

Give it a pass. Unlimited non-exclusive web use? Hell no.


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Oct 12, 2010 22:14 |  #4

He would have hung up on me.


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Oct 12, 2010 23:03 |  #5

I'm just a GWC... I've offered photos to a global construction design firm for $20 each (in sets of 20 or more)... but to a politician? Yea, they would have hung up on me too. Taxpayers money MY A-S-S.

But hey, it's your photo. Unless of course you really believe in this politician, I think you'd regret it every moment after you said ok.


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Oct 13, 2010 06:00 as a reply to  @ Concretin Nik's post |  #6

Your answer was in his justification. They are paying thousands of dollars to redo their website (also taxpayer money) but only want to pay $20 for content. I would say no resoundingly. Also I would point out to him that you have to pay taxes on that money.




  
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Oct 13, 2010 06:02 |  #7

Surely you have one that's not so flattering to sell to his opponent, for more.

Oh, and the taxpayer comment was interesting. Why aren't they using their campaign donations for this?




  
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Oct 13, 2010 06:10 |  #8

For business purposes....those who sold for $10 and $20 are idiots. Fifty for unlimited use is even low...buy at least acceptable. They ( the buyers) have costs.....but so don't you. The guy who sold it for $10...spent $1 on the disc, time to process, and drive it or mail it somewhere....probably cost him more than $10!!


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Oct 13, 2010 09:15 |  #9

Taxpayer money? Shouldn't that be coming out of campaign donations put into the general fund??? Campaign funds and not tax payer money, I'd be questioning that immediately.

BTW - I don't know how many of you are actually published, but many of the top sites are paying $5-20 routinely for images (unlimited no), some even less and some are free when they use the image in print as well. Little different than this, having unlimited usage should be more expensive. Some photographers volunteer their work for the campaigns they believe in, some will shoot events free for politicians they believe in. Just like any other field of photography, all levels are present.

I'd stick to my guns, just did with a company that said they'd use less because of our price - that's fine, we have to get the best value we can while not undercutting other customers making them pay a higher amount for the same exact usage.


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Oct 13, 2010 09:23 |  #10

I paraphrased for brevity. He did say taxpayer money, then stumbled a bit and semi-corrected himself and said it was for a re-election website, but he didn't fully correct himself. He works for the Congressperson, btw. This was not the actual Congressperson.

I'm a devoted centrist, and I picked "Decline to State" on my voter registration, so party-affiliation means nothing to me. I'd be perfectly happy to make the same sale to either or both sides. I just find the generic political aspect interesting as a kind of side-twist.


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Oct 13, 2010 10:31 |  #11

Talked about taxpayer money (not my problem) and questioned how many times I had already sold it (not his concern), then went on to say the complete overhaul of their website is going to cost a few thousand already.

And that's a reason to screw the photog? "We spent all our money!" seems to be a common song among politicians. I first heard it 40 years ago, & wouldn't shoot them after that without payment in advance.


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Oct 13, 2010 10:44 |  #12

Really... you are spending this much energy on a $20. sale. Hindsight, you should have told him the price and he would either buy it or not.
Especially polititicians and their cronies, biggest crooks on the planet, never give them a discount.


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Oct 13, 2010 23:59 |  #13

PhotosGuy wrote in post #11088928 (external link)
And that's a reason to screw the photog? "We spent all our money!" seems to be a common song among politicians. I first heard it 40 years ago, & wouldn't shoot them after that without payment in advance.

Among politicians? I've heard this from editors as well, this and that costs so much, bla bla bla bla bla bla bla...magazines, card companies, newspapers, MLB teams, MANY places.


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Oct 14, 2010 09:08 as a reply to  @ MJPhotos24's post |  #14
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If you need to Congressman's money to pay the heating bill or feed your kid, take it. I suspect that's not the case, though...


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Oct 14, 2010 09:32 |  #15

MJPhotos24 wrote in post #11088533 (external link)
Taxpayer money? Shouldn't that be coming out of campaign donations ... Campaign funds and not tax payer money, I'd be questioning that immediately.

My reaction exactly reading this first post. I used to work for an elected official.


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