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Oct 15, 2010 19:58 |  #1

I am hoping to tap into the vast knowledge of everyone that frequents these boards. I am looking to set-up a home studio. If you are curious about my current equipment it is in my signature.
I have read what ever I can find on here and have seen tons about Alien Bees, Excalibur and Elinchrom. I am trying to figure out the comparisons since a lot of the posts are three and four years old. Just trying to see if there is anything newer.
I am looking for a two light system, probably strobe and not constant light. Need two stands (10') and the umbrellas, softbox or whatever the recommendations see to be. And looking into wireless triggers, pocket wizards or radio poppers.
And before anyone asks, the budget is $500-$1000. (or a little more if you have a really convincing suggestion;))
So if anyone has any suggestions or has just set up a studio I would love to hear your ideas or suggestions!!!
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Oct 15, 2010 20:09 |  #2

I'm surprised you didn't find anything newer. This question seems to get asked just about every day! You'll find people who love the AB's and those that stand behind Elinchrom. Umbrellas give you broad lighting coverage and are good for certain types of lighting, and softboxes give you more control. Pocket Wizards are great but expensive. For your budget, you can get a 2-light Elinchrom or AB kit. Umbrellas are inexpensive modifiers. Softboxes can be inexpensive or cost more than your total budget. There really is a lot of information in here to answer a lot of your questions. You just may have to look a little harder.


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Oct 15, 2010 20:39 |  #3

sdipirro wrote in post #11105485 (external link)
I'm surprised you didn't find anything newer. This question seems to get asked just about every day! You'll find people who love the AB's and those that stand behind Elinchrom. Umbrellas give you broad lighting coverage and are good for certain types of lighting, and softboxes give you more control. Pocket Wizards are great but expensive. For your budget, you can get a 2-light Elinchrom or AB kit. Umbrellas are inexpensive modifiers. Softboxes can be inexpensive or cost more than your total budget. There really is a lot of information in here to answer a lot of your questions. You just may have to look a little harder.

Thanks for the reply. I was looking at the stickies and that all seems to be older. I did find some newer threads but it seemed the two that were the newest the budgets were like $300 and I think $400-$500.
Any pros or cons you have seen / heard about between the two? And is there a problem with excalibur lights?


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Oct 15, 2010 22:28 |  #4

sdipirro wrote in post #11105485 (external link)
I'm surprised you didn't find anything newer. This question seems to get asked just about every day! You'll find people who love the AB's and those that stand behind Elinchrom. Umbrellas give you broad lighting coverage and are good for certain types of lighting, and softboxes give you more control. Pocket Wizards are great but expensive. For your budget, you can get a 2-light Elinchrom or AB kit. Umbrellas are inexpensive modifiers. Softboxes can be inexpensive or cost more than your total budget. There really is a lot of information in here to answer a lot of your questions. You just may have to look a little harder.

Yeah there is at least 2-3 threads where the two sides clash :lol:

I am another elinchrom user. I have the 500/500 BXRi to go set. I was having a long look at the 400/400 Dlite to go set. It is a great set.
http://www.adorama.com …aign=Other&utm_​term=Other (external link)
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Oct 16, 2010 12:11 |  #5

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Yeah there is at least 2-3 threads where the two sides clash :lol:

I am another elinchrom user. I have the 500/500 BXRi to go set. I was having a long look at the 400/400 Dlite to go set. It is a great set.
http://www.adorama.com …aign=Other&utm_​term=Other (external link)
$849

Thanks for the info. Any reason why you went elinchrom instead of the bee's or the excalibur sets??


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Oct 16, 2010 13:58 |  #6

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Thanks for the info. Any reason why you went elinchrom instead of the bee's or the excalibur sets??

I honestly didnt look at excalibur. The third option for me was calumet genesis.

I went with elinchrom because this was my first strobe set. I did too much research ~ a month :lol: I went back and fourth. I went with the Eli because of
1. the consistancy pop to pop. I dont want to think I am doing something wrong and have to adjust camera or strobe only to have the exposure move on me. The color cast thing also deterred me from bees
2. Digital adjustment is better than the slider. its more accurate.
3. you can turn the modeling light on and off and adjust the power with the eli trigger that is on the hot shoe, for the BXRi kit. (I dont know if you can do that with the Dlite set after you get the different trigger, I didnt look into it.)

and this is how all the fights start :lol:


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Oct 16, 2010 15:15 |  #7

sigma pi wrote in post #11108744 (external link)
I honestly didnt look at excalibur. The third option for me was calumet genesis.

I went with elinchrom because this was my first strobe set. I did too much research ~ a month :lol: I went back and fourth. I went with the Eli because of
1. the consistancy pop to pop. I dont want to think I am doing something wrong and have to adjust camera or strobe only to have the exposure move on me. The color cast thing also deterred me from bees
2. Digital adjustment is better than the slider. its more accurate.
3. you can turn the modeling light on and off and adjust the power with the eli trigger that is on the hot shoe, for the BXRi kit. (I dont know if you can do that with the Dlite set after you get the different trigger, I didnt look into it.)

and this is how all the fights start :lol:

Is this the set you ended up going with?
http://www.adorama.com​/EL20751KITK.html (external link)

Is there a particular reason why the 500 over the 400?? Or just wanted to better components that come with the 500 kit?
Thanks for all the info!!


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Oct 16, 2010 15:26 |  #8

wizard13 wrote in post #11109010 (external link)
Is this the set you ended up going with?
http://www.adorama.com​/EL20751KITK.html (external link)

Is there a particular reason why the 500 over the 400?? Or just wanted to better components that come with the 500 kit?
Thanks for all the info!!

To be honest I thought I would need 500ws. I don't :lol: but as they say you can turn them down but you cant turn it up past what it has.
I have already replaced the Manfrotto stands that came with teh kit. The soft boxes are good but small so they are head and shoulders portrait size. I got a HUGE soft box on ebay for like 70$ and that done OK. The trigger is good.

Going back I am glad I got eli, but probably would buy the Dlite kit. I havent really used the adjusting thing. I only use turn the modeling lamp on and off.


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