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Oct 19, 2010 10:03 |  #166

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Bump up your ISO to say....400ish. That will get your shutter speed up which will give you a sharper picture(especially noticeable at 100%)...assuming that was done handheld...?

Though, it is acceptably sharp.

Yes, that one was shot handheld.

Alright, here's three more from the T1i shot handheld at ISO 400 and @ f1.8, f2.0 and f2.2 ....full size and their 100% crops. Again, no PP was done on these.

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Oct 19, 2010 10:03 |  #167

Tadaaa wrote in post #11125224 (external link)
Best $100 I ever spent.

That's pretty sad.




  
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Oct 19, 2010 10:07 |  #168

Its a play lens, thats all. Cheap, crap focusing... but when its on, ITS ON !!


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Oct 19, 2010 10:14 |  #169

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Its a play lens, thats all. Cheap, crap focusing... but when its on, ITS ON !!

I found AF useless on my copy especially in anything but bright light. I wound up treating it as a MF lens and it worked quite well that way.


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Oct 19, 2010 10:18 as a reply to  @ squashed's post |  #170

I took this one with a 50mm 1.8. Its not the best quality but it wouldn't be possible for me with my 24-70mm. It was very dark. I sold it to a relative and borrowed it just for Scarowinds. But the high ISO of the 7d helped a lot too. ISO on the 50d was way worse.

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Oct 19, 2010 10:18 as a reply to  @ K6AZ's post |  #171

I'd never trust the AF as well. Everytime I use it either I go into liveview and hit AF-ON to AF and verify thru the LCD else I'd MF with the LCD


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Oct 19, 2010 10:43 |  #172

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"if someone tells me they have $100 to spend...no more, no less...they already have the kit lens...the 50mm f1.8" pants!

I will say save some more and get the 1.4 or the Sigma.

ok...that's fine and all...but as i've said before...what's wrong with buying the lens, and continuing to save...it's not like the lens is going to go from being worth $100 to all of a sudden being worth $5...the person will continue to save, and at the same time get shots that they had no chance of before...not everyone here is a pro looking to drop tons of money on lenses...


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Oct 19, 2010 11:56 |  #173

spotz04 wrote in post #11125252 (external link)
Yes, that one was shot handheld.

Alright, here's three more from the T1i shot handheld at ISO 400 and @ f1.8, f2.0 and f2.2 ....full size and their 100% crops. Again, no PP was done on these.

Better! ;)


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Oct 19, 2010 12:28 |  #174

Ok, a number of people agree with me about the hit and miss focusing problem with the fifty. So why would one reccomend it to a beginner ? Forget about the price ! You have someone just starting out, trying to learn the camera and everything else , then throw in a lens that is known for Af problems . Just doesn't sound right to me.


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Oct 19, 2010 12:43 |  #175

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Ok, a number of people agree with me about the hit and miss focusing problem with the fifty. So why would one reccomend it to a beginner ? Forget about the price ! You have someone just starting out, trying to learn the camera and everything else , then throw in a lens that is known for Af problems . Just doesn't sound right to me.

It really depends how quickly OP wants to buy a lens for a particular purpose. If they can't afford a better 50mm right now which has faster AF plus better build quality and has to wait until a much later date when funds are available, then OP will be missing out on potential photog opportunities and learning experiences.

The 1.8 may have issues with AF hunting but it doesn't do this every time, at least not with my copy of this lens. In those pics I posted of the leaf I didn't get frustrated with the AF when it hunted a couple times, but I had patience to wait for the lens to focus correctly. If every shot was a rushed shot then OP should spend more money for a faster AF.




  
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Oct 19, 2010 12:43 |  #176

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Ok, a number of people agree with me about the hit and miss focusing problem with the fifty. So why would one reccomend it to a beginner ? .




Of course the photographer can make a difference!

I find the "nifty fifty" 50mm 1.8 focuses fine in low light


- with 450D

did I say it's also sharp?

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Oct 19, 2010 12:52 |  #177

spotz04 wrote in post #11126100 (external link)
It really depends how quickly OP wants to buy a lens for a particular purpose. If they can't afford a better 50mm right now which has faster AF plus better build quality and has to wait until a much later date when funds are available, then OP will be missing out on potential photog opportunities and learning experiences.

Exactly. If I had waited the 2 years it would have taken me to afford a good prime, then I would have missed a ton of great photo ops (not to mention my kids' portraits.) I just ordered the 85 1.8, btw. It will be interesting . . .


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Oct 19, 2010 13:14 |  #178

CountryBoy wrote in post #11126024 (external link)
Ok, a number of people agree with me about the hit and miss focusing problem with the fifty. So why would one reccomend it to a beginner ? Forget about the price ! You have someone just starting out, trying to learn the camera and everything else , then throw in a lens that is known for Af problems . Just doesn't sound right to me.

Honestly, you can't form any unbiased opinions on whether this lens is good or not without evaluating both pros and cons. Without incorporating both in your opinion, it is inherently flawed and does not hold much ground. One of the biggest pros of this lens is its price... so you can't speak about this lens while neglecting this rather important fact.

Whether this lens is well suited to a beginner is something that is subjective in itself. For someone who's done enough research and know what each lens is capable of, then I would say get what you think fits you. If you are shooting from the dark (pun intended.. :D) and don't know what you want, I would simply say invest little ie. buy the nifty fifty, and figure out if you like the focal length, build, IQ, etc.

Obviously, it appears I have too much time on my hands as I'm at work and typing away a book here. :D

Sorry for being a little dry, it might be the mood at work.


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Oct 19, 2010 13:21 |  #179

watt100 wrote in post #11126105 (external link)
Of course the photographer can make a difference!

I find the "nifty fifty" 50mm 1.8 focuses fine in low light


- with 450D

did I say it's also sharp?

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You'll have to explain this one to me.

It shouldn't matter whether a beginner or a pro is pressing the shutter button on the camera, it will miss focus for both if setting is the same and focusing on a same subject.. camera doesn't recognize who's shooting.
I thought we were talking about limitations of the equipment.
BTW, I've done AF tests before between the nifty fifty and 50L under same setting and can confirm that the nifty fifty had less keepers.


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Oct 19, 2010 13:32 |  #180

sangjiny wrote in post #11126266 (external link)
Honestly, you can't form any unbiased opinions on whether this lens is good or not without evaluating both pros and cons. Without incorporating both in your opinion, it is inherently flawed and does not hold much ground. One of the biggest pros of this lens is its price... so you can't speak about this lens while neglecting this rather important fact.

Whether this lens is well suited to a beginner is something that is subjective in itself. For someone who's done enough research and know what each lens is capable of, then I would say get what you think fits you. If you are shooting from the dark (pun intended.. :D) and don't know what you want, I would simply say invest little ie. buy the nifty fifty, and figure out if you like the focal length, build, IQ, etc.

Obviously, it appears I have too much time on my hands as I'm at work and typing away a book here. :D

Sorry for being a little dry, it might be the mood at work.

A flawed product is a flawed product no matter the price.


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