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5DII - One Lens?

 
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Oct 19, 2010 09:05 |  #76

Imho 35L or 50L. Followed soon by 85mm 1.8.


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Oct 19, 2010 09:06 |  #77

24-70L or 35L, but that's just me. What working distance do you need from your subject? That will help you.




  
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Oct 19, 2010 10:25 as a reply to  @ pcunite's post |  #78

If i could have 2, it'd be the 35mm and the 85mm


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Oct 19, 2010 11:40 |  #79

Roroco wrote in post #11124952 (external link)
You mean the mythical 24-70 f/2.8 IS?


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Oct 19, 2010 11:50 |  #80

I would choose the 24-70L if I could only have one lens.




  
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Oct 20, 2010 03:03 |  #81

realmike15 wrote in post #11124887 (external link)
I realize there's more options than just one lens, so I probably could have picked my wording better... I think some people misread my post too though, I said one lens for now, not forever. The dilemma for me was, for the next year or two I won't have much money... so I need to do whatever will benefit me the most during that time.

Option A: A few Mid-grade Primes.
Pros: Low Light, Focal Range.
Cons: AF Motor, Build Quality

Option B: L Zoom.
Pros: AF Motor, Focal Range, Build Quality
Cons: Low Light, Sharpness

Option C: L Prime
Pros: AF Motor, Build Quality
Cons: Focal Range

There's Pros and Cons to each setup. I just can't decide what to do. My experience is mostly with Primes, I've used Zooms only occasionally. I do find the sharpness to be a little lacking compared to primes, even on a good Zoom. I also tend to miss the low light capabilities at relatively low ISO.

It's just a tough decision. I wanted to see what other people thought was the best approach. It seems pretty evenly split though, you have people saying get a nice Zoom, others say get a nice Prime, and others say get a collection of Mid-Grade Primes. But this thread ended up with a lot more replies than I expected. So hopefully it will be a good reference for other people in the future.

So tell us you actual budget and dont limit yourself to just one lens.

For around $1500 my suggestion is
Option 1
Sigma 15mm FE, 50mm f1.4, 100mm Macro
Pros: Low Light, Awesome Bokeh, Focal Range, Fast Focusing, Macro ability
Cons: need to swap lenses, 50mm needs the hood due to build quality.


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Oct 20, 2010 06:32 |  #82

5DamienMkII wrote in post #11130268 (external link)
So tell us you actual budget and dont limit yourself to just one lens.

For around $1500 my suggestion is
Option 1
Sigma 15mm FE, 50mm f1.4, 100mm Macro
Pros: Low Light, Awesome Bokeh, Focal Range, Fast Focusing, Macro ability
Cons: need to swap lenses, 50mm needs the hood due to build quality.

I'm not limiting myself to One lens, as I retracted on in the post you quoted.

Anyway, I'd like to stay with Canon on this one. I've owned the Sigma 30mm and 50mm. Both copies were great in brighter conditions, but as soon as the lights got dimmer the AF performance went to sh*t and most of the shots were OOF. I had both these lenses for a long time, and knew them very well. It definitely wasn't me, there was something wildly off about it's AF performance in those lighting situations. In bright light, I never had a problem. So either I had (2) bum copies that for some reason only focused in good lighting... or Sigma has some work to do with their AF system.


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Oct 20, 2010 06:50 |  #83

Since you are going back to school it will be more interesting to buy the 24-70. For some assignments you will need a wide look, for some assignments you need a "tele"-ish look. Besides F2.8 is not that slow!

I see you already have the nifty, you can use that for low light or dof control.


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Oct 20, 2010 07:14 |  #84

Dawud wrote in post #11130788 (external link)
Since you are going back to school it will be more interesting to buy the 24-70. For some assignments you will need a wide look, for some assignments you need a "tele"-ish look. Besides F2.8 is not that slow!

I see you already have the nifty, you can use that for low light or dof control.

I've been considering this too. I'm thinking it's either going to be a collection of Mid Grade Primes or One Nice Zoom like the 24-70


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Oct 20, 2010 07:30 |  #85

realmike15 wrote in post #11130840 (external link)
I've been considering this too. I'm thinking it's either going to be a collection of Mid Grade Primes or One Nice Zoom like the 24-70

Honestly, don't discount the convenience of the 24-105. It isn't quite the same as having a collection of primes, but the ability to zoom sure is nice for some things. I rarely use my 24-70 and I never use my 50mm 1.4. That has more to do with laziness and what I shoot, but I find that the combination of reasonably wide with reasonably long in the 24-105 coupled with the high iso abilities of the 5dII to be a great combo.


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Oct 20, 2010 07:51 |  #86

if i have to choose, i would go for 24/35 1.4 L :D


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Oct 20, 2010 08:12 |  #87

The 24-70 is nice on the 5D MK II - I think I recommended it at the start of the thread.

It becomes even better with a grip on the 5D MK II (to balance it out)

In Europe you can get a 5D MK II + 24-70 kit (drops the price nicely)


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Oct 20, 2010 08:38 |  #88

As an all-purpose walk-around lens, it is hard to beat the 24-105 4L IS. It is smaller, lighter, cheaper than the 24-70 2.8L, and it has 3 stop IS which helps hand-held a lot.

The 24-70 2.8L has other merits, but I'm waiting for the upgraded version, which I expect will come soon.

I also have the 70-200 2.8L IS II, which is another world of goodness, but probably beyond your price range, and a bit limiting for a sole lens.




  
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Oct 20, 2010 08:45 |  #89

I still don't really get the 24-70 recommendation over the 24-105. The f/2.8 isn't fast enough for shooting indoors and you loose IS and the extra focal lens all while paying more for the lens. For me, it makes more sense to get the 24-105 and a "inexpensive" prime such as the 50 1.4 for low light. That or just get 3 primes to cover the range if you are going to spend 1200 on the 24-70.




  
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Oct 20, 2010 08:59 |  #90

rioni wrote in post #11131264 (external link)
I still don't really get the 24-70 recommendation over the 24-105. The f/2.8 isn't fast enough for shooting indoors and you loose IS and the extra focal lens all while paying more for the lens. For me, it makes more sense to get the 24-105 and a "inexpensive" prime such as the 50 1.4 for low light. That or just get 3 primes to cover the range if you are going to spend 1200 on the 24-70.

A lot of prime lovers would argue, you really only use the extreme ends of the focal length on a Zoom... so why not get primes and gain the benefit of Low Light shooting and Sharper Pictures.

On the other hand a good L zoom with High End Build Quality, and better AF Motor can be had for anywhere from $1000-$1,300 new. A $1,300 budget of Primes to cover a variety of focal lengths like a Zoom, will only afford you (3) Mid-Grade Lenses... so you lose the better AF Motor and Build Quality.

It's not an easy decision :cry:


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