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2 MKiin or 1 MKIII

 
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Oct 21, 2010 09:15 |  #1

Thinking about jumping over to Canon for your inexpensive prime lenses. Don't think there is any difference in camera brands but the Canon lenses are way less costly than the Nikon. I literally can't afford to shoot Nikon any more.

So, I'm thinking about either 2 MKII's or 1 MKIII and maybe a 40d as a backup camera. I currently am shooting D1 football and HS sports but when the season ends, I'm done with that. I know the MKIII has the microfocus adjustment and that's probably a pretty big deal.

Your thoughts are welcome.

Currently have in Nikon:
D700, D300, D2h, 28-70(borrowed), Sigma 70-200, 35-70 (broken), 50 1.4 and 300 2.8.

I hate zooms but can't afford the new primes that Nikon has introduced. I can sell all my Nikon stuff and have enough for a couple of good cameras, sack full of glass and money left over for some more lighting.

I hate these tell me what I should do threads but...

Dennis




  
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Oct 21, 2010 09:30 |  #2

might as well go for the MKIII if you can since the UI is alot more like the current stream of canon DSLRs and not to forget...its got features like sensor cleaning, better high ISO performance, longer battery life.

The MKIII is a bit lighter than the MKIIN which is good if you ask me:)


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Oct 21, 2010 09:30 |  #3

I think it depends on what you need (obviously). Personally, I don't need the increase in resolution or the larger LCD. If I were in your situation, (and I definitely wanted to trade over, which I am not sure I would do, lol) I would go with 2 mkIIs.

But, the mark III does have alot of newer features that would be nice....
14 bit images, micro adjust, onboard sensor cleaning, 10 FPS vs. 8 FPS.

I mean, I guess you just need to weigh your options and buy what you think will get the images you want.


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Oct 21, 2010 10:12 |  #4

As you can see my lens lineup is lacking. My 300 is 16 years old and my 70-200 is about 6 years old. My 50 is my main lens for seniors/families and doing quite a bit of that lately. WAY more than sports and it's good money. The 28-70 I'm using is nice but the zoom ring is broken making it a bit of a pain to use.

Canon lenses I want: 200 2.8, 135 2.0, 85 1.8 and a 35 1.4 may get a 17-40 for groups and stuff which I also do. I need some better lenses and more lighting (currently have 2 AB800s and 3 SB800s) not selling my lighting but would like to pick up some a couple more Bs for rodeo work and some more remotes.




  
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Oct 21, 2010 11:02 |  #5

Try to get a 1D MKIII as it was a major across the board update from the MKII series. If you get a used body make sure the serial number is higher than 54xxxx as Canon corrected a potential issue with the focusing under certain conditions. Excellent camera.


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Oct 21, 2010 11:11 |  #6

I will go for the 1D3/40D, just better at everything and if you want something to replace your D700 go for a used 5D classic. If you don't need to replace your 300mm and don't need a fast camera, jump to the 5DMK 2 right now. The price is good and you can have good deal by this time. The 1D3 images are gorgeous but they are even more with the 5D2.


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Oct 21, 2010 11:20 |  #7

do you need weather sealing??? Some of the lenses you listed do no have a weather seal.

You are aware that the 1d3 does have focus issues in the early s/n. Test the focus thoroughly or buy from a reputable guy on this forum or fred miranda.


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Oct 21, 2010 12:14 |  #8

Have one of each and use them on a regular basis.

The LCD is a little smaller, its got a couple less megapixels and shoots at 1.5 FPS slower but otherwise, they are pretty close. Honestly, for half the price of a MKiii, the MKii is nearly just as good. You can pick up two clean MKii's for the price of a single MKiii.


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Oct 21, 2010 12:41 |  #9

I wouldn't go for 1dmk3. Nice camera but you not sure if it will have focus issues or not. Seller not going to say that. I would test and only buy if I was able to verify everything before paying.


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Oct 21, 2010 13:55 |  #10

I shoot sports, sometimes with two 1D Mark II bodies, sometimes one 1D and my 40D, sometimes with all three. The 1D does a much better job on AF than the 40D so if it is important that your backup body be just as good then get two 1D Mark II N's instead.

The 1D Mark III and 40D have 14-bit files, the Mark II N just has 12-bit. Mark III and 40D have live view while Mark II N does not if that matters to you. All 3 cameras have replaceable focus screens and good battery life and burst rates.

I haven't upgraded to the Mark III because it only has 19 user selectable AF points (Mark II has 45 selectable) and more importantly for sports you can't quickly focus on the registered AF point and the main AF point using the back * and AF assist buttons. They added back both of those features to the Mark IV but I can't afford two of them yet... The focus issues have also scared me off the Mark III even though I know Canon will fix them for free, I need a camera in my bag, not in the hands of Canon Professional Services if I can help it!


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Oct 21, 2010 14:18 |  #11

My two cents are the two Mk IIn's.
I hate switching lenses in the field.
45 point AF is amazing and accurate!
I love the Mark IIn that I have and am seriously considering the purchase of another.


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Oct 21, 2010 14:22 |  #12

Thanks everyone. Two MKIIns would allow me more room for glass which is what I want more than cameras.

Now I just need to sell all my Nikon stuff, swear my allegiance to the Canon Empire and take a few pictures before the world ends in 2012.

Thanks again,
Dennis




  
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Oct 21, 2010 14:36 |  #13

Be prepared for the new pricing on canons new range of lenses. 300mm generation 1 lens currently 3.5k sterling. Generation 2 is (wait for it) 7500 sterling! 400mm has gone from 6.5k UK to 11.5K UK


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Oct 21, 2010 15:01 |  #14

I'm done with "for pay" sports in a few weeks. I can make more from seniors/families in a weekend than I make from shooting sports in 3 months. I'm gonna' grab a 200 2.8 for HS paper shooting and that's more than enough to shoot from the sidelines. I agree that long glass is getting ridiculous but I think it's being done on purpose to keep the scabs like myself off the sidelines . It's really getting out of hand and if they don't do something the only place you will be able to shoot from is the endzones. The only shooters that need to be there are the ones that are getting paid IMHO. Guys shooting for fun should be in the stands.

HS sports aren't near as restrictive as college. I can basically stand anywhere I want just as long as I don't interfere with the players or the coach. I just follow the players down the sidelines, no big deal.




  
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Oct 21, 2010 15:28 |  #15

Coops wrote in post #11139756 (external link)
Be prepared for the new pricing on canons new range of lenses. 300mm generation 1 lens currently 3.5k sterling. Generation 2 is (wait for it) 7500 sterling! 400mm has gone from 6.5k UK to 11.5K UK

Hopefully that'll send the 300/400mm f/2.8 IS Mark I version prices down into reasonable used prices for the rest of us :lol: I can dream can't I?


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