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Oct 26, 2010 09:12 |  #46

According to Nick, I am in the HDR hole ;) This is an awesome flo chart, saved.

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Oct 26, 2010 11:23 |  #47

Gosh I really want to see these now. Why does everyone take down their photos?


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Oct 26, 2010 11:24 |  #48

_aravena wrote in post #11168063 (external link)
Gosh I really want to see these now. Why does everyone take down their photos?

If he/she couldn't take the critics here, image how he/she would deal with an angry bride or mother.. They are killers


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Oct 26, 2010 14:30 |  #49

Yeah I wanna see the photo's! Gee they cant be that bad...PM them, I will help give kindly advice and make you better.


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Oct 26, 2010 15:57 |  #50

Speedbird, my compliments to you for being willing to ask for direct, uncensored feedback and then to accept it so professionally. You photography might not meet the standards of some, but your positive attitude, desire for feedback, and kind tone are certainly professional in my standards.


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Oct 26, 2010 23:00 |  #51

to the OP,
If your really passionate about it, Keep shooting, keep learning,
Take the advice and C and C given, IMHO, it's honest and is impersonal and a heck of a lot better to hear it here than from your clients, or even worse, not hear it from your clients and have them tell their friends not to hire you.




  
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Oct 26, 2010 23:19 |  #52

Im just where it says I SUCK before techniques.. seriously.. had around 5 shoots where I didnt even want to show the pictures to the client.. and they loved them.. but hey, I DO SUCK! woww...


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Oct 30, 2010 20:14 |  #53

Lol at the chart, it's spooky accurate. I'm somewhere before 'first tripod' on the blue line. I started looking at how to do HDR today before seeing that chart! AHHHHH!!!


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Nov 01, 2010 00:22 |  #54

The photos aren't available anymore? I'd love to have a look :(


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Nov 01, 2010 00:30 |  #55

The quality of your photography means really little compared to your ability to run a business. Really awesome photographers that don't know business will never make it as a profession. There are, however, really crappy photographers that are great business people and make a ton of money.

Asking photographers whether your photography is good enough has next to nothing to do with the success and viability of running a business.




  
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Fernando.R wrote in post #11202197 (external link)
The photos aren't available anymore? I'd love to have a look :(

I guess the negative criticism caused the OP to remove them!




  
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Nov 01, 2010 08:43 |  #57

sboerup wrote in post #11202225 (external link)
The quality of your photography means really little compared to your ability to run a business. Really awesome photographers that don't know business will never make it as a profession. There are, however, really crappy photographers that are great business people and make a ton of money.

Asking photographers whether your photography is good enough has next to nothing to do with the success and viability of running a business.

That's really banking on customers being idiots. Seriously -- why else would someone hire a crappy photographer? IMO, they only do it a.) if it's a relative/to help out a relative or b.) you're dirt cheap (compared to the real pro.)

If they are otherwise manipulated by a bad photographer's great "business skills", then they are probably not very bright or honestly know nothing about photography. (The latter probably being more true which, in that case, I consider the photographer deceptive and a negative backlash to follow.) JMO.


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Nov 01, 2010 21:41 |  #58

NewCanon7DUser wrote in post #11203029 (external link)
I guess the negative criticism caused the OP to remove them!

Ahh too bad.

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Nov 02, 2010 10:08 |  #59

YankeeMom wrote in post #11203475 (external link)
That's really banking on customers being idiots. Seriously -- why else would someone hire a crappy photographer? IMO, they only do it a.) if it's a relative/to help out a relative or b.) you're dirt cheat (compared to the real pro.)

If they are otherwise manipulated by a bad photographer's great "business skills", then they are probably not very bright or honestly know nothing about photography. (The latter probably being more true which, in that case, I consider the photographer deceptive and a negative backlash to follow.) JMO.

I think a lot of the time the ignorance lies on both sides. Photographers who suck who think they are actually doing a good job throwing their camera in auto and over-processing their images (let's be honest, that's the M/O of most low end photographers) and it's clients who don't know what good photography looks like. Everybody has a different tolerance of what's good and what's not good. That's the truth in everything - hence the reason why we have a large variety of price points for everything we could possibly buy. You could buy a pair of shoes at Payless and be perfectly happy with them, but there are some people who wouldn't wear anything from Payless, they only want to wear shoes from Neiman's.

Some clients just don't care about photography, have a different tolerance of what's good..etc.. That's their problem!


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Nov 02, 2010 10:20 |  #60

I agree that the photographer and/or customer may just not know better, but I was responding to the assertion that just having great business skills is enough to do well, even if you are crappy. I'm not saying it can't work, but in the long run, it's a lose-lose for everyone. Definitely ignorance is more forgivable than manipulation. :)


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