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Nov 02, 2010 15:53 |  #1

I just bought a new 580 EX II. When the 580 is on the camera I have no trouble using my 420 EX as a slave to the 580. However, when I trigger the 580(in master mode) off camera with my Pocket Wizards, the 420 flashes after the 580 and after the shutter has open and shut. Anybody have any ideas on what is going on here??




  
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Nov 02, 2010 17:43 |  #2

Take the 580 out of master mode when using it off camera and triggered by the pocket wizard.




  
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Nov 02, 2010 18:00 |  #3

The problem is you can't use the 580EX II as a master flash for the 420EX when you're triggering it with a Pocket Wizard. You'll need to buy two PWs, but then the 420EX will only fire at full power as it has no manual settings.




  
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Nov 02, 2010 19:36 as a reply to  @ AdamGasson's post |  #4

Ok, so basically it can't be done then. The 420 EX can't take a PW so I'll need to get another flash and another PW to trigger that flash.........Thanks for the info.




  
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Nov 02, 2010 20:03 as a reply to  @ JohnEBongo's post |  #5

you can trigger and control both flashes with a Canon ST-E2.


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Nov 02, 2010 20:07 |  #6

JohnEBongo wrote in post #11213663 (external link)
Ok, so basically it can't be done then. The 420 EX can't take a PW so I'll need to get another flash and another PW to trigger that flash.........Thanks for the info.

What you want to do can only be done with a 430EX and higher model. The 420EX is an E-TTL only flash and for what you want to do, the flash needs to be set to manual-slave mode (which the 420EX cannot be set to).


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Nov 02, 2010 20:10 |  #7

JohnEBongo wrote in post #11213663 (external link)
Ok, so basically it can't be done then. The 420 EX can't take a PW so I'll need to get another flash and another PW to trigger that flash.........Thanks for the info.

The 420 can be triggered by a pocket wizard, you need a hot shoe adapter.


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Nov 02, 2010 20:14 |  #8

canonnoob wrote in post #11213868 (external link)
The 420 can be triggered by a pocket wizard, you need a hot shoe adapter.

The 420EX has no manual power adjustment capability so it'll always fire at full power (so it may or may not be an issue depending on usage).


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Nov 02, 2010 20:16 |  #9

PacAce wrote in post #11213891 (external link)
The 420EX has no manual power adjustment capability so it'll always fire at full power (so it may or may not be an issue depending on usage).

I never said it would particularly useful.. :p

just noting that those kind of blanket statements arent always valuable.


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Nov 02, 2010 20:18 |  #10

canonnoob wrote in post #11213907 (external link)
I never said it would particularly useful.. :p

just noting that those kind of blanket statements arent always valuable.

Sorry, Dave, my post was an add-on to yours and meant for the OP. :)


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Nov 02, 2010 20:23 |  #11

Another option is to use the Pocket Wizard ControlTL system. The FlexTT5 supports the 420EX in TTL mode and with an AC3 on the Flex or Mini on the camera both the 580EXII and the 420EX can be controlled as manual or TTL Speedlites. (Get an AC7 for the 580EXII) Better yet get two, they make great umbrella adapters for Speedlites.


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Nov 02, 2010 20:23 |  #12

PacAce wrote in post #11213917 (external link)
Sorry, Dave, my post was an add-on to yours and meant for the OP. :)


no worries.. :lol:


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