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Nov 10, 2010 10:59 |  #91

update: I'd bought Fuji HS10 and selling my SXi...


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Nov 10, 2010 11:24 |  #92

For me, shallow depth of field with huge apertures is important. Even if P&S sensors reach a clean ISO 6400 and have a super low shutterlag (and please do...), the nature of the sensor causes you to have a very big depth of field.

Other than that, I like being able to use manual focus and an optical viewfinder is nice.


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Nov 10, 2010 13:28 |  #93

DOF is important to me as well. Conveniency wins this round with my mind. If i were to look to buy a dslr camera again it would probably be 5Dii full-frame sensor camera type. but, of course, there always an issue with money!!!


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Nov 10, 2010 16:48 as a reply to  @ MrLA's post |  #94
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Is this a wrong thread? This is a photography forum. Yeah, I like photography and, therefore, I would always pick a DSLR over a PS. I like photography for the artistic reasons. Don't get me started with "zoom." I own a 500L F4 IS. You get the idea what I can do with that lens over a super zoom on a PS. :)


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Nov 10, 2010 16:51 |  #95

TooManyShots wrote in post #11261260 (external link)
Don't get me started with "zoom." I own a 500L F4 IS. You get the idea what I can do with that lens over a super zoom on a PS. :)

Certainly not take it everywhere.

I'd take a $3 film disposable over a 500mm f4 for disneyland with the family.


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Nov 10, 2010 17:26 |  #96
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Certainly not take it everywhere.

I'd take a $3 film disposable over a 500mm f4 for disneyland with the family.


Yeah, try that when you want to shoot birds. No, I don't see you have your family members sitting in the swamp for hours waiting for that special shots. For Disneyland, I got options. Is not like I only have a 500L. :)


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Nov 10, 2010 17:40 |  #97

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Yeah, try that when you want to shoot birds. No, I don't see you have your family members sitting in the swamp for hours waiting for that special shots. For Disneyland, I got options. Is not like I only have a 500L. :)

Try to shoot birds handheld @ 840mm and 24mm (35mm eqiv) wide with one lens.

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Nice shot of a "captive" eagle...:) See if you can get this shot with the PS...

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This isn't your House Sparrow shot. Is a palm warbler.

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Nov 10, 2010 18:16 as a reply to  @ TooManyShots's post |  #99

wow I can't believe this has gone 7 pages.
look, if you have to ask why DSLR is better than P&S...you haven't done any research or used either type of camera.
the only advantage I can think of for P&S over DSLR is small physical size. P&S can be useful for smuggling a camera into an event for example...but every other aspect of picture taking is lacking with P&S and part of it comes from the size of DSLR.


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Nov 10, 2010 19:33 |  #100

look at the eagle picture above. it says to you 'dude, don't even think you can take a picture of me with your red ring lens 24L on that block called 1D3'!!!


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Nov 10, 2010 21:19 |  #101

If a P&S could perform the same as a DSLR, then I would carry a P&S with me all the time. To me IQ is the most important aspect in photography, there's no point and shoot that can provide me with what I consider excellent IQ. I have taken some great photographs with small cameras, even with my iPhone G4, that really isn't the issue as much, I can't squeeze IQ out of any P&S, is impossible because of the way they're built, that doesn't mean they don't have a place in photography, they do, but in my case is very rare I would go to any event without my DSLR, for everyday stuff, I have my iPhone.


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Nov 10, 2010 21:34 |  #102

Everyone has their own idea of what works.. Over time it may change what they carry and for what reasons. The style you shoot dictates what equipment you use. I don't knock any type of camera some one uses, what and how they use it.. I will say that my Sony TX-5 and DSC-HX1 have their purpose and I take nice shots. The IQ is not what I get out of an L lens and that is obvious and no one will debate that.
I will say that the Gxx and Sxx have better IQ than any of my P&S and seeing the photos posted here on potn make me want to get one in the future.


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Nov 10, 2010 23:25 |  #103

The issue with the recent comments is not that the superzoom is in any way better performing. It is the fact that some cannot concede that different tools are better for different people. How good is a shot you didn't take because your heavy camera/lens was left at home? How good is a shot you missed while changing lenses? How good is a shot on a camera you don't want to learn to use and don't have time to get the most out of? I had a blast on my last trip with just my Panasonic Zs3, and not the IQ was not as good as I could have achieved with my 30D and mid-range glass, but I also took pictures I would not have taken with the 30D. I cam home with shots I liked and had fun. That's a good camera to me.


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Nov 11, 2010 10:33 |  #104

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Show me a superzoom that has a 1.4 aperture and a clean ISO 1600, or even ISO 800, so that I can shoot kids opening Christmas presents without using a flash and without turning on every light in teh living room.

Hrmmm, according to your gear list you don't have an f/1.4 lens yourself, but still, you're going to get usable DoF at f/1.4 with subject distance of a handful of feet?


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Nov 11, 2010 10:50 |  #105
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anthony11 wrote in post #11265465 (external link)
Hrmmm, according to your gear list you don't have an f/1.4 lens yourself, but still, you're going to get usable DoF at f/1.4 with subject distance of a handful of feet?


That's correct. A general misconception from beginners assuming that you need ultra fast glass and ridiculous high ISO to get low light shots.....
Go read this thread https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=954076

before you spend $2k on a 85L F1.2 to get sharp shots of people with bad light and color casts, over blurry shots of people with the same bad light and color casts. :)


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