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Gitzo 1541 compared to Triopo GX-1182

 
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Nov 13, 2010 21:41 |  #1

Hi,
The Gitzo arrived but the GX-1128 hasn’t

Before I review the 2 tripods, I have prepared a modification on the Gitzo 1541 Mountaineer as you will see

I am not comparing the Gitzo as yet to the GX-1128 as of now, the latter will arrive shortly

There is an engineering oversight that the following info describes

Gitzo have not replied to my email regarding 1541’s design flaw

Its very loose, doesn't tighten any further

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That’s it for now until the GX-1128 arrives

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Adrian

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Nov 14, 2010 04:05 |  #2

Thanks for the review Adrian.


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Nov 14, 2010 18:22 |  #3

Your post describes what you've done, but nothing to describe the real reason it's being done.

The Gitzo 1541 Mountaineer was designed with a center column, the hook was designed for the center column. You've removed the center column and tried to reassemble the tripod without it, causing this "design flaw". It's not a Gitzo design flaw, but a flaw you created by going outside of the original design.

If you want a flat plate, get a systematic that's designed that way, or just leave the center column down. But please don't bias people by suggesting that Gitzo screwed up, they didn't, you did. BTW, it's a nice mod, and well done, but not a flaw.


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Nov 15, 2010 07:14 as a reply to  @ casaaviocar's post |  #4

'If you want a flat plate, get a systematic that's designed that way,'

I dont want a flat plate, I dont want a systemic

'or just leave the center column down'

I dont want to do that either

I see you have a misunderstanding of how this mod actually helped with alignment

spend some more time looking at what I did and why

that should clear it up for you


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Nov 15, 2010 08:06 |  #5

Oh I understand exactly what you did, you removed the center column, something the tripod is not designed for, tried to put it back in a way that the tripod wasn't designed for, then claimed it's a Gitzo "flaw". And machined it to fit for your modification. It's a mod, not a design flaw.


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Nov 15, 2010 18:31 as a reply to  @ casaaviocar's post |  #6

I beg your pardon

FROM THE GITZO WEBSITE

Gitzo 1541 minimum height 17cm
" This new feature allows you to REMOVE THE CENTRE COLUMN to save weight and

get the camera closer to the ground. Uses existing components: the upper disc with reversible

1/4' - 3/8' bolt and the column hook assembly: Remove column and fix the disk directly

to the upper casting using the column hook. No tools needed. "


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Nov 15, 2010 18:44 |  #7

I stand corrected.


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Nov 15, 2010 18:49 as a reply to  @ casaaviocar's post |  #8

Feast your eyeballs on this

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Nov 16, 2010 11:17 |  #9

great-looking mod! eagerly awaiting your review of the two tripods.


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Nov 16, 2010 12:10 |  #10

Damn that's low, I can only get 27cm to the top plate using my stubby centre column (Giottos MTL 9361B), even from the bottom of the column swivel tightening thingy to the top plate it's 19cm.

However using the centre column horizontally I can get 30cm from the quick release plate on the ballhead, and because I can do this with the normal centre column I can also go all the way up to 183cm (6ft), a 153cm range is pretty good I'd say.

As for your mod it's very well done. Does it actually change much though? I'm guessing that plate with the hook doesn't clamp the centre column in place, the twisty bit under the top plate looks to do that. Also what purpose do the o-rings serve?


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Nov 16, 2010 12:30 |  #11

Nice mod!


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Nov 16, 2010 12:40 as a reply to  @ Indecent Exposure's post |  #12

You're very bold. I applaud you.


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Nov 16, 2010 15:00 |  #13

Checked my GT2531 just to see and when I set it up for columnless shooting all the pieces went back together seemlessly and the groove at the top of the hook base plate lined up perfectly with the hole. All attached and tightened down there is no play or gap.

It's odd your 1541 has this issue. Where did you order it from?


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Nov 16, 2010 16:22 |  #14

Really nice mod!! I don't care about the rest.




  
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Nov 16, 2010 17:06 as a reply to  @ ddong's post |  #15

The O rings have 2 uses from what I can see

it protects the legs from scarring when the tripod is folded up

The O ring being rubber provides a very good grip when mating it to the column or removing it from the column

The twisty bit is screwed down all the way down for stability

from the Gitzo website
"Remove column and fix the disk directly
to the upper casting using the column hook. No tools needed. "

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I have the Triopo GX1128 in my grubby hands now, I am preparing a review


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