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Nov 16, 2010 10:18 |  #1

After searching a bit it seems that most threads that are comparing the 500BXRI's are comparing them to the 600RX monolights.
I am looking at the D-Lite 4's vs the 500BXRI kits. Since the price of the 500BXRI kit is down to $1299 and then a $100 rebate to bring it down to $1199 it is only $350 more than the D-Lite 4's. Just trying to figure out advantages for the $350 and seeing if anyone has any insight into the comparison. This is not my main job and just a hobby that I love. And the bank account seems to hate ;)

Looking to use in a home studio (basement) for shots of the little ones and family pictures in the studio and outside (where power is available). The groups would occasionally get up to 10-12 people. The majority of the use will be for 1-2 people in the home studio.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be great.


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Nov 16, 2010 10:31 |  #2

I think the upgrades from the D-Lite to the BXRi is well worth it. Being able to remotely control the power settings from your camera is a big plus. Most of the time, I find myself walking over to the light and changing the settings manually, but when it's up on a boom it suddenly becomes a very nice feature. The extra power isn't really a game changer but also a plus.

What you have to ask yourself is this: Will I need that $350 for a modifier and is that modifier more important? With that $350, you can get one of the two most popular Elinchrom modifiers --53" Midi Octa and 39" Deep Octa. I know that further complicates things when it comes to making your decision, but that's something to think about. Like you said, this is just a hobby and for a basement studio. Maybe a BXRi wouldn't be as necessary? Or if you can come up with some funds in the near future, maybe going with BXRi is a better choice?


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Nov 16, 2010 10:35 |  #3

wizard13 wrote in post #11294155 (external link)
After searching a bit it seems that most threads that are comparing the 500BXRI's are comparing them to the 600RX monolights.
I am looking at the D-Lite 4's vs the 500BXRI kits. Since the price of the 500BXRI kit is down to $1299 and then a $100 rebate to bring it down to $1199 it is only $350 more than the D-Lite 4's. Just trying to figure out advantages for the $350 and seeing if anyone has any insight into the comparison. This is not my main job and just a hobby that I love. And the bank account seems to hate ;)

Looking to use in a home studio (basement) for shots of the little ones and family pictures in the studio and outside (where power is available). The groups would occasionally get up to 10-12 people. The majority of the use will be for 1-2 people in the home studio.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be great.

There are some assorted differences but none that would really make a difference in your images or workflow and based on the fact that this isn't what you do for a living and are at the beginning stages or working with studio strobes I think you could get either kit and be very happy.

The most significant difference I see in terms of convenience of use if the fact that the D-Lite IT has a Skyport trigger built-in whereas the BXRi's give you built-in triggering and remote control over power output and modeling light on/off.

Outside of that feature I can't see any reason to go one way or the other unless you just liked one more than the other or preferred the slightly better (and a more pro look) of the BXRi's.

I'm sure others will chime in and you'll get a lot of good feedback.


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Nov 16, 2010 10:46 |  #4

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I think the upgrades from the D-Lite to the BXRi is well worth it. Being able to remotely control the power settings from your camera is a big plus. Most of the time, I find myself walking over to the light and changing the settings manually, but when it's up on a boom it suddenly becomes a very nice feature. The extra power isn't really a game changer but also a plus.

What you have to ask yourself is this: Will I need that $350 for a modifier and is that modifier more important? With that $350, you can get one of the two most popular Elinchrom modifiers --53" Midi Octa and 39" Deep Octa. I know that further complicates things when it comes to making your decision, but that's something to think about. Like you said, this is just a hobby and for a basement studio. Maybe a BXRi wouldn't be as necessary? Or if you can come up with some funds in the near future, maybe going with BXRi is a better choice?

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There are some assorted differences but none that would really make a difference in your images or workflow and based on the fact that this isn't what you do for a living and are at the beginning stages or working with studio strobes I think you could get either kit and be very happy.

The most significant difference I see in terms of convenience of use if the fact that the D-Lite IT has a Skyport trigger built-in whereas the BXRi's give you built-in triggering and remote control over power output and modeling light on/off.

Outside of that feature I can't see any reason to go one way or the other unless you just liked one more than the other or preferred the slightly better (and a more pro look) of the BXRi's.

I'm sure others will chime in and you'll get a lot of good feedback.

Thanks for the feedback. That is kinda what I was thinking. Really the only difference I was seeing was the remote controlling of the strobes. Nice yes but for $350???
It is a hobby but one that I really enjoy and who knows where it will lead....
But for now just looking for opinions and hoping others will chime in also.
Thanks again!


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Nov 16, 2010 11:07 |  #5

I was in the same boat as you. I went BXRi


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Nov 16, 2010 11:11 |  #6

if I was in a position to buy, I'd go BxRI


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Nov 16, 2010 11:23 |  #7

sigma pi wrote in post #11294407 (external link)
I was in the same boat as you. I went BXRi

So what made you decide to go BXRI??


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Nov 16, 2010 11:24 |  #8

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if I was in a position to buy, I'd go BxRI

Why would you decide to go BXRI if you were buying? What drove that decision?


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Nov 16, 2010 12:17 |  #9

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So what made you decide to go BXRI??

More WS (which I didnt need) and Adjusting the lights from the camera (which I have not really used too much, but I turn the modeling lamp off from the camera :D )


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Nov 16, 2010 12:19 |  #10

remote adjustment sure would be nice, rather than climbing ladders, running back and forth, training my son how to adjust... on camera would be great! Luckily enough the mounts are more robust now, but my lowly original Dlites suffer from inadequate stand mounts.


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Nov 16, 2010 12:47 |  #11

My choice was a little easier when I got my BXri's as the D-LiteIT were not out so you have to add the skyports. The other deciding factor for me, and I don't know if this has been improved on the IT's, but the stronger mount was a factor. The BXri's have no issue at all holding my 53" Octa without having to crank down on the mount.


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Nov 16, 2010 12:57 |  #12

The new D-Lites are very, very good. The gap between the D-Lite it and the BXRi is small. I still chose the BXRi, though. The little things that it offered over the D-Lite it were enough to justify the cost for me... shorter flash duration, extra power, remote power, etc. When I was looking to get a third strobe, I strongly considered getting a D-Lite it (2 or 4) for kicker or a similar use, but I kept gravitating back towards the BXRi 500.


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Nov 16, 2010 13:16 as a reply to  @ Seanzky's post |  #13

You might also want to consider a kit that has 1 BX500Ri and one BX250Ri. This will also give you more flexibility and help you in those situations where you do want to shoot at slightly wider apertures.

As mentioned in one of the previous posts, you're much more likely to have an issue with not being able to drop the power enough than you are to be in a situation where you don't have enough power.

Of course, if you were going to use these strobes outdoors for location lighting it would be entirely different.


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Nov 16, 2010 14:52 |  #14

TMR Design wrote in post #11295087 (external link)
You might also want to consider a kit that has 1 BX500Ri and one BX250Ri. This will also give you more flexibility and help you in those situations where you do want to shoot at slightly wider apertures.

As mentioned in one of the previous posts, you're much more likely to have an issue with not being able to drop the power enough than you are to be in a situation where you don't have enough power.

Of course, if you were going to use these strobes outdoors for location lighting it would be entirely different.

Outdoor lighting is not the main goal but it will be one of the functions of the lights here and there. In that case are you suggesting the 500BXRI's then?

Thanks for all the input on this decision. Have just been looking around for weeks now and it just seems these two kits are so close :)


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Nov 16, 2010 16:35 |  #15

I really wanted 4 lights and considered 2 BXRi's and 2 D-Lite 4's. I ended up going for the superior BXRi's, but only 3 due to my budget. No regrets.

Although I wish to take my photography and studio skills much further than where I'm at presently (beginner to the studio!), I currently practice in my home. I only have 8 foot ceilings and had the need to place the BXRi right up at that height. I'm 6ft and couldn't reach the buttons, so being able to simply push a button on the Skyport transmitter really did put a smile on my face :) I love it, haha!

I've put each strobe on a different group so simply switch the number on the transmitter and go up and down in power for each one, and being able to switch the modelling lamp on and off in the same way is great. Also, even if the strobe is down low and looking up to light a background, you have to kneel and get you head very low to see and push buttons.

I think you may regret going for the D-Lite's, especially if you ever get the chance to use the BXRi's ;)


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