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Nov 30, 2010 12:51 |  #1

Hey everyone,

I received my Canon 50mm f/1.4 yesterday and am not particularly impressed. It's not a bad lens, but it definitely seems like a compromise in every sense (contrast, build quality, bokeh, cheap micro USM, etc.). I guess I should have expected this based on the reviews...Anyway, I can't afford the 50L at this point, so the Sigma 50mm seems like the best choice. So I have a few questions:

-Is the 50mm shipping with the new finish? Specifically from Amazon as B&H is sold out.
-If you've sent one in for focus calibration, how long did you have to wait for it to be returned?
-What aperture do you consider the Sigma usable at (in terms of contrast and sharpness)? f/2-f/2.2 seems to be my limit on the Canon.
-How's the hood? Do you use it?

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Nov 30, 2010 12:57 |  #2
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The lens finish should not matter. It would be nice if the one you are getting has the newer finish. I believe the service turnaround time is within a week, assuming they didn't need your camera to match the lens. I have Sigma recalibrated mine with my 1dmarkIII on the spot, an hour wait. Once it is recalibrated, f1.4 is usable but depending on the subject. I won't shoot half portraits at 1.4. Maybe at F2 or F2.5. I noticed that once it is recalibrated, the lens AF faster. Yeah, I use the hood, why now. It is a much better hood than the Canon one.


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Nov 30, 2010 13:00 |  #3

-Is the 50mm shipping with the new finish? Specifically from Amazon as B&H is sold out.

Does it really matter?

-If you've sent one in for focus calibration, how long did you have to wait for it to be returned?

It was pretty fast, less than a week I believe, but mine was only sent one state over

-What aperture do you consider the Sigma usable at (in terms of contrast and sharpness)? f/2-f/2.2 seems to be my limit on the Canon.

That depends how sharp you really want it, wide open it is a little "dreamy" but stopped down to 2.0 and I would not really hesitate to use it. Mine becomes super sharp at 2.8.

-How's the hood? Do you use it?

Good and yes


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Nov 30, 2010 13:02 |  #4

themadman wrote in post #11370703 (external link)
Does it really matter?

It's not a factor in my purchase decision, just curious and if there was a particular retailer that had it in the new finish I would buy from them.


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Nov 30, 2010 13:29 as a reply to  @ jt354's post |  #5

I was hoping to get the new finish one just because it's newer (which may mean that it's been around long enough to get the manufacturing and design bugs out but who knows) plus the fact that some people have had issues with the old finish flaking (but there is no long term history on the new smooth finish to say it's more durable than the old EX textured finish).

I felt p*ssed when the salesguy forgot to give me a price match (less than $15) but felt better about it when I realized that I had the received a new finish 50 mm lens.

I guess it's just human nature to want the "latest".


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Nov 30, 2010 13:56 |  #6

If it's not sharp at 1.4 why not consider the nifty fifty 1.8(mine is very sharp wide open), and the Siggy 85 1.4(drool)


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Nov 30, 2010 13:58 |  #7

rsieminski wrote in post #11371026 (external link)
If it's not sharp at 1.4 why not consider the nifty fifty 1.8(mine is very sharp wide open), and the Siggy 85 1.4(drool)

You know what the OP said about the Canon 50 1.4? It all applies to the nifty as well, lol

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It's not a bad lens, but it definitely seems like a compromise in every sense (contrast, build quality, bokeh, cheap AF, etc.).


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Nov 30, 2010 14:00 |  #8
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themadman wrote in post #11371034 (external link)
You know what the OP said about the Canon 50 1.4? It all applies to the nifty as well, lol

(slightly edited portion in bold)


To add that the 50 f1.8 is all plastic!!!!! Can break in half too...... What AF?


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Nov 30, 2010 15:13 |  #9

rsieminski wrote in post #11371026 (external link)
If it's not sharp at 1.4 why not consider the nifty fifty 1.8(mine is very sharp wide open), and the Siggy 85 1.4(drool)

I'd love to have the 85mm -- on a full frame camera. I used to have an 85mm f/1.8 and didn't like the FL on crop. As for the nifty, I'm not thrilled with the bokeh samples I've seen and would rather have the durability of the Sigma over the two Canon lenses. I've also been spoiled by ring USM :cool:


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Nov 30, 2010 15:26 |  #10

TooManyShots wrote in post #11371046 (external link)
To add that the 50 f1.8 is all plastic!!!!! Can break in half too...... What AF?

FYI, size difference from the Sigma 50mm to the Canon 50mm f1.8

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Nov 30, 2010 15:40 |  #11

James, nice portfolio. I especially like the B&W landscape of the tree on top of the mesa. :)

I think you're going to like the Sigma 50/1.4. I too had the Canon 50/1.4 - a very good copy - and found it somehow lacked "character" when compared to the Sigma. My second attempt at getting a Sigma landed me a gem (the first was not good, not at all). I'm shooting it wide open at distances from a few feet to 30 feet and it's delivering consistently good results. Same thing with all aperture settings; consistently good results.


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Nov 30, 2010 18:37 |  #12

Thanks! Just ordered it off Amazon and I'm praying it's usable enough to get me through New Years without needing calibration.

Stu, as for the size and weight difference, I'm not too concerned. It probably won't see much time as a "backpacking lens," and when it does I'll probably leave the 100mm macro and 70-200mm behind. I do wish it were a little smaller to minimize the "intimidation factor" for street photography.


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Nov 30, 2010 19:48 |  #13

Does the finish matter I say yes although I just ordered one and will get it Friday. I am hoping for the new finish because I hate the finish of the Sigma lenses. But the most important is getting a good one I would not send it back if it comes with the old finish.

I just ordered from Abes of Maine and they are selling them for $444 also a person here got one from them about three weeks ago and it had the new finish




  
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Nov 30, 2010 21:32 |  #14

James Weaver wrote in post #11372526 (external link)
Stu, as for the size and weight difference, I'm not too concerned. It probably won't see much time as a "backpacking lens," and when it does I'll probably leave the 100mm macro and 70-200mm behind. I do wish it were a little smaller to minimize the "intimidation factor" for street photography.

Ah! Don't get me wrong, the sigma is bigger but it feels like a solid quality lense. Once I got mine, I can't remember the last time I took it off my camera :)


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Nov 30, 2010 21:37 |  #15

rsieminski wrote in post #11371026 (external link)
If it's not sharp at 1.4 why not consider the nifty fifty 1.8(mine is very sharp wide open), and the Siggy 85 1.4(drool)

My Sigma 50/1.4 is very sharp at 1.4 -- shots at infinity focus are all very sharp at 1.4, suggesting that any 'softness' in closer subjects is a function of DoF and not softness.

The contrast increases a bit if you stop down to 1.8 or 2.0. The bokeh at 1.4 when you have a close subject is indeed very dreamy. If your background blur includes a lot of out of focus circles and highlights, I think the uniformity of illumination (and the roundness) get a little better stopping down a bit too.

That said, its performance at 1.4 is outstanding, just because it improves stopping down is not an indictment of its performance wide open.


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