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Dec 10, 2010 23:18 |  #241

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hmmm now I'm curious....may I ask why?

Don't get me wrong. I like the 60" but the reason why I particularly like the 46" is because of the silver insert. I find the 46" a bit easier to control when you need a little more control. That little extra sparkle in the eyes from the silver insert makes a difference to me.


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Dec 10, 2010 23:22 |  #242

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I've been shooting mostly reflective products, and since the umbrella shaft and the strobe has been showing up very prominently in the catch lights, I haven't been that excited about posting the results. Aside from that, I actually love the thing. Did some personal/family portraits with it, and you just can't seem to get it wrong.

Hi Tom,

I'm actually not a big fan of any modifier or umbrella that places a light stand and anything in the line of fire. I've never gotten used to it or warmed up to it. The way I deal with it is to just not use the Softlighter when I'm doing head shots or tightly framed portraits. I only use it for longer shots with the modifier distanced a bit more and the only way to see any silhouettes in the catch light is to pixel peep. With head shots you don't have to pixel peep and it's rather obvious. I'm also not a fan of using Photoshop to clean up or clone out catch lights so like any tool in the tool box, I selectively use it when it's appropriate.


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Dec 11, 2010 04:07 |  #243

I felt similar with the triflector - hated the weird alien catch-lights.




  
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Dec 11, 2010 09:23 |  #244

Trailboy wrote in post #11432518 (external link)
I felt similar with the triflector - hated the weird alien catch-lights.

The tri-lite is definitely an acquired taste. Personally, I love it for certain types of shots.

I don't have a problem with multiple or odd shaped catch lights. I just don't like when the catch light is interrupted with a silhouette from other gear in the line of fire.


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Dec 11, 2010 12:07 |  #245

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Hi Tom,

I'm actually not a big fan of any modifier or umbrella that places a light stand and anything in the line of fire.

which modifier is this?


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Dec 11, 2010 12:26 |  #246

PhilF wrote in post #11433963 (external link)
which modifier is this?

Umbrellas used as bounce or devices like the Softlighter II. If the light stand, flash head, battery packs, PW's etc. are outside and in the line of fire they'll show up in the catch light. If the flash or strobe is inside and the light stand is behind the modifier, as in the indirect banks, then it's not an issue.


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Dec 11, 2010 12:37 |  #247

TMR Design wrote in post #11431883 (external link)
I only use it for longer shots with the modifier distanced a bit more and the only way to see any silhouettes in the catch light is to pixel peep.

Yep, after 2 minutes with it and I pretty much came to that same conclusion. Great if you pull the light back, but very tricky if you're filling the frame with anything that is reflective.

I picked up the Softlighter mainly as an alternative to a similar sized softbox to shoot a family of 5, so no big deal. For products, I should just try shooting through and see how that works out.




  
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Dec 17, 2010 02:31 |  #248

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Dec 17, 2010 08:29 as a reply to  @ PhilF's post |  #249
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Eli 600RX with 46" softlighter

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Dec 17, 2010 12:19 |  #250
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Hey, good stuff Phil & Silver.
I've been following this thread since Alejandro started it, and I love what the Softlighter can do. Of course, I know it's less about the equipment, and more about the user ... :o

Oh, and a pretty model sure helps !!


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Dec 17, 2010 13:41 |  #251

Craig, it's got to be about both at some level :)


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Dec 17, 2010 13:50 |  #252
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Craig in LA wrote in post #11469552 (external link)
Of course, I know it's less about the equipment, and more about the user ...

hawk911 wrote in post #11469965 (external link)
Craig, it's got to be about both at some level :)

What Hawk said. You can't make gear do what it won't do, and less-capable gear is just that.


cheers, juice (Canon shooter, Elinchrom lighter, but pretty much agnostic on brands.)

  
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Dec 17, 2010 13:53 as a reply to  @ mickeyjuice's post |  #253

Ahh yes but less capable gear in the hands of someone very capable does help that gear perform a bit better then one would normally expect. ;)


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TMR Design wrote in post #11470031 (external link)
Ahh yes but less capable gear in the hands of someone very capable does help that gear perform a bit better then one would normally expect. ;)

Quite right, which is why the answer is always BOTH.

Want just the eyes in focus? Lens only opens up to 5.6? Is tough :-)

I agree entirely with your above point, but physical limitations are just that.


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Dec 17, 2010 14:25 |  #255

but I'm certainly not here to start a debate on the value of one over the other--- not going down the single light style debate ;)


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