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Dec 17, 2010 14:59 |  #1

I use dpp to process my images and for some reason when i convert a night scene with lights. Lets say i produce a jpg and when i see the minimized version of the shot in dpp both cr2 and jpg next to each other there is a marked difference (full size is different too).

Almost seems like jpg is sub dued .
Is there a way to fix this or has anybody else seen this before
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Dec 17, 2010 15:03 |  #2

What color space are you converting to? And what is the default color space in your DPP color management settings?


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Dec 17, 2010 15:24 as a reply to  @ ChasP505's post |  #3

In preferences on the color management tab
Default setting of work color space is set to sRGB

and color matching setting is set to sRGB too
Thanks not sure if this is what you meant by your question




  
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Dec 17, 2010 15:44 |  #4

I can't hazard a guess at this point -- what happens if you convert and save as a fulll size high quality jpeg then compare in DPP?


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Dec 17, 2010 16:39 as a reply to  @ tonylong's post |  #5

That was a good suggestion but unfortunately it did not help




  
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Dec 17, 2010 17:19 |  #6

amazon wrote in post #11470429 (external link)
I use dpp ... when i see the minimized version of the shot in dpp both cr2 and jpg next to each other there is a marked difference (full size is different too).
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Try this:

Tools > Preferences > General settings > JPEG image quality > Display thumbnails at high quality.

As to why full size would be different ... ??? .


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Dec 17, 2010 23:02 |  #7

Let's see an image.


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Dec 17, 2010 23:42 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #8

the jpg image is here
http://www.flickr.com …/21654792@N03/5​267997832/ (external link)

It seems like the luminance is low in this shot




  
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Dec 18, 2010 09:38 |  #9

As to why full size would be different ...

I don't get that, either.
As for the image itself, the whole tree looks 'dull'. I'd use that ambient exposure while I kicked some light into a nearby wall so the tree showed up better.


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Dec 18, 2010 12:12 |  #10

amazon wrote in post #11472602 (external link)
the jpg image is here
http://www.flickr.com …/21654792@N03/5​267997832/ (external link)

It seems like the luminance is low in this shot

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Dec 18, 2010 15:24 |  #11

Here's something that can help us -- if you take the original Raw file and upload it to a site such as YouSendIt.com, using your email address as a recipient, they will email you a notification including the link to the file. Post that link here and we can download the Raw file and do our own comparison and give some feedback.


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Dec 19, 2010 22:36 as a reply to  @ tonylong's post |  #12

hello tony
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also it will help if you used dpp to do he conversion
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Dec 20, 2010 01:22 |  #13

So, I downloaded, did a Convert and Save at full quality and no resizing, and when I look at them they look quite the same, both at regular view and zoomed in.

So, how about you post a close crop from each that clearly shows the difference you are seeing?


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