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70-200 f/2.8L or f/4L IS?

 
Ms ­ Yin ­ and ­ Mr ­ Yang
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Oct 08, 2010 00:22 |  #1

Hi

Although I understand that a 70-200 lens is not ideal for (touring cars) trackside shots, financial constraints have limited my choices, at present to:

70-200mm f/2.8L USM or 70-200mm f/4L IS USM

Which one f/stop or IS?

I intend to use a x1.4 extender and will be shooting during daylight in the UK.

All advice greatly appreciated.

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Oct 08, 2010 02:08 |  #2

f/2.8

Although Sigma 120-300 f/2.8 or Sigma 100-300 f/4 could be worth looking at.


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Oct 08, 2010 02:12 as a reply to  @ andrewc's post |  #3

Another vote for the f/2.8 version.




  
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Oct 08, 2010 02:22 |  #4
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f/2.8 If this is the IS version of the f/2.8, simply have more of an option




  
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Oct 11, 2010 01:49 |  #5

Hi
Thanks for the advice. I went with the Canon 70-200 f/2.8L USM.




  
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Oct 12, 2010 23:07 |  #6

Good choice.




  
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Oct 29, 2010 08:06 |  #7

For anyone else considering this, the 100-400 f4-5.6 IS L is a great alternative too IMO, and does not cost much more than the non-IS f2.8 70-200.


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Nov 21, 2010 02:21 as a reply to  @ damnit's post |  #8

If you have the budget go for the 2.8 without hesitation.


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Nov 21, 2010 02:35 |  #9

I'm going to go against the grain and say the opposite. I loved my f/4L IS at the track. Tack sharp and with a 1.4x TC you're already at f/5.6 so it's stopped down to it's sharpest. Here's some track shots with it and a 1.4x tc on my 5d2

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Nov 21, 2010 02:46 |  #10

ni$mo350 wrote in post #11320251 (external link)
I'm going to go against the grain and say the opposite. I loved my f/4L IS at the track. Tack sharp and with a 1.4x TC you're already at f/5.6 so it's stopped down to it's sharpest. Here's some track shots with it and a 1.4x tc on my 5d2

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Very nice. I use the F4 too. I have to admit, budget stopped me from getting the 2.8 and I wish I had it for the lower light days and portraits.


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Nov 27, 2010 20:29 |  #11

I see the OP has made their choice.

For others... Lets put this in perspective, budget dictates for a lot of these decisions. As nice as the f/4 is and as versatile as the 100-400 might be the 70-200 2.8 crushes them both in image quality. You can argue about how well whatever you use is and how it works for you but the 2.8 is phenomenal.

I have to disagree nismo I've used the f/4.0 wide open, that is not the sharpest it can look - add the TC and you are degrading it more. I would agree 5.6 is about right without the TC. Your 5d2 probably makes up for quality on lesser bodies.

Ingerson the 2.8 is probably sharper at 3.2 but your 4.0 is probably better at 5.6 so your down one and a half stops effectively... add IS and well you know what you have to do :-)

Discuss.


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Nov 28, 2010 02:23 |  #12

rcg wrote in post #11355730 (external link)
I see the OP has made their choice.

For others... Lets put this in perspective, budget dictates for a lot of these decisions. As nice as the f/4 is and as versatile as the 100-400 might be the 70-200 2.8 crushes them both in image quality. You can argue about how well whatever you use is and how it works for you but the 2.8 is phenomenal.

I have to disagree nismo I've used the f/4.0 wide open, that is not the sharpest it can look - add the TC and you are degrading it more. I would agree 5.6 is about right without the TC. Your 5d2 probably makes up for quality on lesser bodies.

Ingerson the 2.8 is probably sharper at 3.2 but your 4.0 is probably better at 5.6 so your down one and a half stops effectively... add IS and well you know what you have to do :-)

Discuss.


Absolutely agree. I will not argue against the 2.8 what-so-ever. The only reason I don't have it is money.


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Dec 06, 2010 12:49 |  #13

I am going to say 2.8 because if you shoot at night, the tracks that i shoot at are not well lit. I had to shoot at F2.8 1/60 ISO 1000 - f2.8 1/250 iso 3200


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Dec 20, 2010 10:11 |  #14

F/2.8 all the way, think about this, even though it may not have IS you can always add a monopod or tripod for stabilization if you needed it. (I don't feel like I do), but you can never make F4 into F2.8, you'd have to sacrifice shutter speed, or ISO which you probably wouldn't want to. I shoot hockey with the 2.8 version, and I'm at 1/400 F2.8 ISO 1600. If I went to the F4 version, I'd be at 3200 which is too high for my liking, or down to 1/200 (way too slow for sports).


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Dec 21, 2010 06:00 as a reply to  @ k4show's post |  #15

rules for hockey photography do not necessarily follow over for motorsport.

For motorsport you are normally working at 1/320 or below. Often a lot lower, and at long focal lengths.


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