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Canon 85L f/1.2 II vs Sigma 85 f/1.4

 
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Dec 22, 2010 21:19 |  #1

This is just a quick test between the Canon 85L f/1.2 and the Sigma 85mm f/1.4. The images were done in jpg and cropped. I used ISO 800, with ambient lighting. The camera was setup on a tripod and triggered remotely.

I found that the Sigma performed admirably against one of the holy trinity, the fabled 85L f/1.2 II. The Sigma to me was sharper at all f stops. I just tested it to f/2.2, because you buy these lenses for their wide aperture. For $899 vs the Canon’s $1800-2000, it gets the job done. I can live without that extra 1/2 of a stop. Again this is just IMHO.

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Dec 22, 2010 22:01 |  #2

You did an amazing job, thanks for sharing. I think I like the Canon over the Sigma up to f/1.8, after that the Sigma shows better contrast as well as sharpness - amazing.




  
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Dec 22, 2010 22:11 |  #3

Pretty much everything I expect from other sources. Now I wait for the 85L fanboys to show up and tell us wrong... lol


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Dec 23, 2010 01:12 |  #4

If all your settings are similar, it looks like the Sigma allows lets in more light than the Canon. Is the Sigma also a little wider? Kinda like the difference with the Canon 50mm and the Sigma 50mm lenses.


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Dec 23, 2010 07:00 |  #5

themadman wrote in post #11500663 (external link)
Pretty much everything I expect from other sources. Now I wait for the 85L fanboys to show up and tell us wrong... lol

You mean like these guys...

http://www.slrgear.com​/reviews/index.php (external link)

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Dec 23, 2010 07:27 |  #6

And while you are at it, you should compare it to the 85mm 1.8.
It doesn't look like the eyelashes were in focus in any of those pictures.




  
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Dec 23, 2010 07:29 |  #7

I had to choose between both a couple of weeks ago. I got the 85L only because I got an SUPER deal from Lens Rentals. Otherwise I'd go for the Sigma.
The only three reasons to pick the canon are, IMHO, if you REALLY need 1.2, the price holding trough time and assured compatibility with future bodies.
Otherwise, Sigma has faster AF, way cheaper, just as sharp and great bokeh.
Sigma have been putting out some great glass lately at very very competitive prices.


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Dec 23, 2010 07:31 |  #8

I also like how fast it focuses.... While I did not have a problem with the 85L, the Sigma is significantly faster.


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Dec 23, 2010 07:38 |  #9

darktiger wrote in post #11500388 (external link)
I can live without that extra stop. Again this is just IMHO.
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It's just 1/3the of a stop.. I can live without that too :-).


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Dec 23, 2010 07:58 |  #11

JelleVerherstraeten wrote in post #11501939 (external link)
It's just 1/3the of a stop.. I can live without that too :-).

I thought it was a 1/2 of a stop difference?


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Dec 23, 2010 09:50 |  #12

Thanks for sharing - looks like the Sigma might be in my not-too-distant future. :D


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Dec 23, 2010 23:48 as a reply to  @ hieu1004's post |  #13

In my opinion, the 85L is a (slightly) better lens. It is much more solid build, and I feel the color and contrast are better too (not scientific, just my impression). However, the Sigma is less than half of the price and focus faster. So, for me, I pick the Sigma. Really, $800 difference is big, I can buy another lens, or use it for my camera upgrade.


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Dec 24, 2010 01:30 |  #14

Uh... I'm a fan of the Sigma 85. I like what it can do and the price. And had I not purchased the 85L already, I would likely have bought the Siggy85.

So now that's out of the way, something is odd with your samples/examples. The 85L @ f/1.2 is seemingly sharper than your other comparison photos (f/1.4-f/2.2). The f/1.4-f/2.2 photos look slightly OOF, due to probable front-focus.

At least this is my assessment of your comparison when viewing the *.pdf. I understand the sample photos were compressed so there's loss of IQ due to that, but when the f/1.2 looks quite sharp and everything else not-so-sharp... I'm not sure if this comparison is indicative of other 85L lenses. Perhaps your copy of the 85L is not as good as it could/should be?


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Dec 24, 2010 03:42 as a reply to  @ jwcdds's post |  #15

dxomark made a more scientific comparison .. and 85L in the centre is almost the sharpest 85mm lens on the market from wide open (Zeiss, Nikon, Sigma).. lenstip too, has got some charts showing such fact sigma is very sharp but behind canon at most of the apertures.

What should be a more or less a real trouble is that sigma's AF seems fast but not really reliable (warning from lensrate,The-Digital-Picture.com's experience, and my own experience of sigma 24F1.8 tend to prove that sigma is really far from being acceptable -> it's focusing, but surely randomly accurate).
In the same time, 85L is almost 90% of the time really accurate, assuming people have to know how to use an ultra thin DOF, the right AF point and have enough skill to point on the right part of the subject, and can keep tracking a moving subject.


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