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Dec 26, 2010 13:33 |  #16

True not everything is PS,

As for assuming, well that's my choice to do or not as I please.


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Dec 26, 2010 13:39 as a reply to  @ TopHatMoments's post |  #17

I don't see the big deal... If I take a picture of a building, Does the architect get all mad about me "stealing" their "art"?


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Dec 26, 2010 13:44 |  #18

joelvdvies wrote in post #11516975 (external link)
I don't see the big deal... If I take a picture of a building, Does the architect get all mad about me "stealing" their "art"?

Actually, I'd bet that some do.


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Dec 26, 2010 13:47 |  #19

joelvdvies wrote in post #11516975 (external link)
I don't see the big deal... If I take a picture of a building, Does the architect get all mad about me "stealing" their "art"?

If you built a copy of his building, he probably would.


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Dec 26, 2010 14:02 |  #20

nonameowns wrote in post #11516879 (external link)
um it's a painting on a canvas, not photoshop.

You are right. Sorry, I did not read that, but it is still a blatant copy.




  
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Dec 26, 2010 14:27 |  #21

I like the photograph better. In terms of actual content it might be stated that while this moment in time was captured uniquely that it may not be as unique as we would like to believe. This may be a scene that has a traffic pattern that produces this kind of image repeatedly in the day though the placement of different colored headlights suggests imitation. Note the imitation is not exact either. There is no rain in the block style graphic art and it's most likely the image was a starter seed. Lots of painters use photographs.

There are entities who protect their visual identity in the world. This happened in Paris with laws about who can shoot the various landmarks and I don't really remember the details in that case but I believe if you were going to use a landmark in a publication it had to clear French bureaucracy.




  
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Dec 26, 2010 14:33 |  #22

CallumPhoto wrote in post #11515909 (external link)
but that photo is really nothing special

Wonder what you align "special" with and is photography about topping the last great image or is it about a mood, a place, subject, and setting. That is a beautiful image in my eye.




  
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Dec 26, 2010 14:39 |  #23

jetcode wrote in post #11517183 (external link)
There are entities who protect their visual identity in the world. This happened in Paris with laws about who can shoot the various landmarks and I don't really remember the details in that case but I believe if you were going to use a landmark in a publication it had to clear French bureaucracy.

I'm going from memory here, so bear with me, but I think the Eiffel Tower is a perfect example. The tower itself is not copyrighted, but only due to its age. The lights on the tower, however, are copyrighted.

There may be some nuances that I'm missing, but I think that's the gist of it.


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Dec 26, 2010 14:45 |  #24

nonameowns wrote in post #11516879 (external link)
um it's a painting on a canvas, not photoshop.

Project the photo onto the canvas, mix the paints and dab them on paint-by-number style!

If I were the newspaper, I'd demand the prize money back and disqualify the winner for plagarism.


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Dec 26, 2010 14:49 |  #25

joelvdvies wrote in post #11516975 (external link)
I don't see the big deal... If I take a picture of a building, Does the architect get all mad about me "stealing" their "art"?

If you take a photograph and represent the work as "your own", then yes, you are infringing on a copyright.

If you cite the original owner and have their permission, or if you change it up enough that it's clearly a separately created work, then it's different.

I think this example is that the painting so closely emulates the photo, with little or no effort to make it different. That's not "inspired" by the original, it's essentially paint-by-number copying!


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Dec 26, 2010 14:54 |  #26

Copyright infringement?

See Shepard Fairey v Associated Press (and Associated Press v Shepard Fairey).


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Dec 26, 2010 15:09 |  #27

Go to Fairey's exhibit, yak a photograph of the print, have a few hundred printed, sign them and start selling the at half the price of Faireys.

How much you want to bet he will come unglued and fill copyright charges.


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Dec 26, 2010 15:17 |  #28

photoguy6405 wrote in post #11517234 (external link)
I'm going from memory here, so bear with me, but I think the Eiffel Tower is a perfect example. The tower itself is not copyrighted, but only due to its age. The lights on the tower, however, are copyrighted.

There may be some nuances that I'm missing, but I think that's the gist of it.


That's right. I think the lighting design company placed the restrictions because it was their intellectual information being copied.




  
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Dec 26, 2010 16:22 |  #29

TopHatMoments wrote in post #11517390 (external link)
Go to Fairey's exhibit, yak a photograph of the print, have a few hundred printed, sign them and start selling the at half the price of Faireys.

How much you want to bet he will come unglued and fill copyright charges.

already done: http://myartspace-blog.blogspot.com …airey-and-baxter-orr.html (external link)

short and sweet: you're right.


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Dec 26, 2010 17:47 |  #30

I'm pretty sure that's not PS, I would hope that the judges of an art or painting contest would be able to tell the difference between a PS edit thats been printed and an actual painting.


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