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Dec 30, 2010 23:48 |  #16

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I'm pretty sure Disneyland is as well. My mom used to work in the electronics industry and she had a tour of the "underland" beneath Disneyland :)

I'm something of a Disney history buff. The #1 reason the Magic Kingdom at Disney World has it's underground "Utilidors" system is because at Disneyland it drove Walt absolutely nuts to see his Cast Members pass through themed areas dressed in costume for some other part of the park. I honestly have no idea how they do things at Disneyland today (I live in FL and I've yet to go there), but I do know they do not have an underground system like they do at WDW.

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Jan 02, 2011 12:41 |  #17

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Correction: Disney World is, Disneyland is not.

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Jan 02, 2011 16:44 |  #18

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I don't believe they actually transfer the images to a server when they scan that card, I think they just associate the photos that they just snapped to your "account." I was talking with one of the photogs there when we visited a few weeks ago and he made it sounds like they all dump their photos at the end of the shift, they're checked for anything inappropriate or screwed up and then "approved" to hit your account.

This is correct. The images are simply synched to your Photopass account when the barcode is scanned. There is no wifi being used. Images are downloaded from the cards, edited, and then uploaded to your account at the end of the day. Canon introduced a Studio Version of the 7D this year that accomodates a barcode reader. The barcode info is embedded in the EXIF.


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Jan 02, 2011 23:33 as a reply to  @ RSB's post |  #19

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I just got back from Disney World, and we had a few photos taken by the park's photopass photographers. Other than the fact that they are using Nokoon cameras (D70, I believe), they do have a cool system to wirelessly upload all the photos and get them onto Disney web servers pretty quickly. Anyone here know more about the software and hardware used to make this all happen?

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Jan 03, 2011 05:38 |  #20

Wow, I leave for a few days and this thread is going strong. Thanks for the insight. Too bad we can't get an actual Disney World photog in here--it sounds like there is some debate as to whether or not the upload the photos right away. If they don't upload them right away, then I guess they would need some big storage cards. But I suppose they are shooting JPG, at a lower resolution than the best the camera can do. Probably able to save upwards of a thousand or more photos, which should be good enough.

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Jan 03, 2011 22:15 |  #21

MrGibbage wrote in post #11562872 (external link)
Wow, I leave for a few days and this thread is going strong. Thanks for the insight. Too bad we can't get an actual Disney World photog in here--it sounds like there is some debate as to whether or not the upload the photos right away. If they don't upload them right away, then I guess they would need some big storage cards. But I suppose they are shooting JPG, at a lower resolution than the best the camera can do. Probably able to save upwards of a thousand or more photos, which should be good enough.

John, yeah... it's me :)

No debate, just some speculation that is incorrect. I'm very familiar with the system Disney uses, and it does not include any type of wireless upload. Your photo pass has a barcode, the photographer scans the barcode after he takes your picture, images are downloaded from cards throughout the day, software syncs all the images shot that day associated with your barcode, the images are edited, and are uploaded to your personal photo pass gallery. No pixie dust needed.


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Jan 04, 2011 09:01 |  #22

The tripods are nice to with the light that is on the bottom of them. Anybody know what type of tripod they use?


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Jan 04, 2011 12:54 |  #23

RSB wrote in post #11568539 (external link)
No debate, just some speculation that is incorrect. I'm very familiar with the system Disney uses, and it does not include any type of wireless upload. Your photo pass has a barcode, the photographer scans the barcode after he takes your picture, images are downloaded from cards throughout the day, software syncs all the images shot that day associated with your barcode, the images are edited, and are uploaded to your personal photo pass gallery. No pixie dust needed.

This is correct. As many times as we've been, we've always managed to chat it up with staff. I've been told the above a couple times by various WDW cast members.




  
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Apr 10, 2011 11:40 |  #24

I did a gig and one of the guys I was shooting with worked in the editing room for the photo pass stuff. He said the module thing connected to the camera does send images to the hub and it also has a system that they can communicate with each other if the hub sees the 'photog' doing something wrong or says the wrong character in the photo they can yell at them. I believe they use a special version of ACDSee too.


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Feb 11, 2012 13:50 |  #25

We just returned from 10 days at Walt Disney World, and I was quite intrigued by the whole PhotoPass system myself. We have a photo business that could use something similar to this, so I googled and found this thread. Since it contains a lot of speculation, I began to ask the photographers. Most of them were willing to share a little bit about how it worked (I got the feeling that they're not supposed to), but I pieced enough together to give some insight:

1. The system works on WiFi. They said there's WiFi hotspots all over each park. I'm guessing that the Disney Imagineers have devised a private WiFi system that's not visible to the public (and isn't hard to do).
2. They use a Motorola piece of hardware - none of them offered to remove the canvas case it was in, but they did show me the device. It looks very much like this: http://************/6v​mzs8b
3. The software is proprietary to Disney.
4. It uploads almost immediately after the image is taken. I think the photographer has a grace period where they can delete a really bad image before it goes to Big Brother.
5. They scan the PhotoPass which tags the photos the photographer took (since the last scan) with that PhotoPass ID. It's a 2D barcode, like a QR code.
6. For run-of-the-mill park photos, they pretty much go immediately into your PhotoPass account, meaning that you could pull up your account 60 seconds later and see the image. They WILL be reviewed by Big Brother, and may get deleted if they are outside of Disney Policy.
7. For character photos, they USUALLY get reviewed BEFORE they go to your account. They have really strict guidelines (which, personally, I think is great). No alcohol in the photo, no offensive T-shirt designs, no weapons (they told my 9yo son he couldn't be wielding his new LEGO Ninjago sword in one of the photos).

They shot with Nikon D90 cameras, and SB-800 flash units.


That's about it. I'd love to put together something like this for our business.




  
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Feb 11, 2012 16:56 |  #26

djtommye wrote in post #13869030 (external link)
We just returned from 10 days at Walt Disney World, and I was quite intrigued by the whole PhotoPass system myself. We have a photo business that could use something similar to this, so I googled and found this thread. Since it contains a lot of speculation, I began to ask the photographers. Most of them were willing to share a little bit about how it worked (I got the feeling that they're not supposed to), but I pieced enough together to give some insight:

1. The system works on WiFi. They said there's WiFi hotspots all over each park. I'm guessing that the Disney Imagineers have devised a private WiFi system that's not visible to the public (and isn't hard to do).
2. They use a Motorola piece of hardware - none of them offered to remove the canvas case it was in, but they did show me the device. It looks very much like this: http://************/6v​mzs8b
3. The software is proprietary to Disney.
4. It uploads almost immediately after the image is taken. I think the photographer has a grace period where they can delete a really bad image before it goes to Big Brother.
5. They scan the PhotoPass which tags the photos the photographer took (since the last scan) with that PhotoPass ID. It's a 2D barcode, like a QR code.
6. For run-of-the-mill park photos, they pretty much go immediately into your PhotoPass account, meaning that you could pull up your account 60 seconds later and see the image. They WILL be reviewed by Big Brother, and may get deleted if they are outside of Disney Policy.
7. For character photos, they USUALLY get reviewed BEFORE they go to your account. They have really strict guidelines (which, personally, I think is great). No alcohol in the photo, no offensive T-shirt designs, no weapons (they told my 9yo son he couldn't be wielding his new LEGO Ninjago sword in one of the photos).

They shot with Nikon D90 cameras, and SB-800 flash units.


That's about it. I'd love to put together something like this for our business.

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May 11, 2012 04:32 as a reply to  @ post 11545293 |  #27

OK most of you are close but not close.

Disney Photo Pass system seems pretty propietary however the equipment they use is not. They use a wireless data association device Called Wi-pics. The device retails between 1399-2200 depending on the model and features. The photographer has the option of automatic upload, wait till told to upload, or manual upload ( because most photographers are afraid of putting out a bad image they normally do not auto upload but review their photos first). The device also has spots to enter in other related Data thats how they know to give you snow white stock pictures when you visit snow white. Disney is the first to really use this device to its potential as I have an older version and had never found a good use for it in my business after recently visiting disney I have had many ideas and am now returning to the device to do some trial and error type tests. Disneys end software does seem to be proprietary as I can not find software to put it all together in the end. However there are simple softwares out they can make events easier with the use of this device I used to recommend Picasa to People as when I shot sports teams all day with the device they could put in there barcode and only thier teams photos would come up. Disney has just taken this device to a whole new level as disney always does.




  
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May 11, 2012 15:56 |  #28

As a former cast member of the Great Mouse... The tunnels and spaces under the Magic Kingdom are extensive! And yes - one of the original reasons was for Cast Members to appear in the right area - no crossing between themes. Also, it allowed greater control of when and where all costumed characters would appear. The majority of equipment is below ground where possible. This allows more space above ground to be used for "public park purposes". It is an amazing system really - and a lot of fun to appear in different places without actually crossing the park.
And for another fun fact - as most people know, you can't really dig very deep in Florida. So, to have the tunnel space needed, we were taught that when they dug/dredged the lagoon, the dirt was piled up where the Magic Kingdom is now located. They then built the tunnel works and built the Kingdom itself on top of the mound...



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May 11, 2012 17:17 |  #29

I toured the utilidor system some years ago on one of Disney's "Behind the Scenes" tours. It covers the entire Magic Kingdom, and was fascinating to see. They were extremely paranoid about cameras down there - our guide hand-inspected my shoulder bag containing my camera and camcorder, and watched me like a hawk to assure they stayed in my bag during the entire tour. I began to appreciate the illusion when I noticed a few large tanks strapped to the ceiling above us as we entered the underground system - they were labeled "chocolate chip cookie" and "popcorn" as I recall. When I asked our guide about them, he said the tanks released odors into the park as guests entered.

Some links to a map and some pics and video of the underground magic...

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http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=AftFiJbiomc (external link)


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May 11, 2012 18:31 |  #30

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The tripods are nice to with the light that is on the bottom of them. Anybody know what type of tripod they use?

When I was there in Feb. they were all using Manfrotto 055XPROB. I had just gotten mine so I recognized it right away and talked to one of the photog's about it. They have different heads on them though, mine has the ballhead. The light was something added, I asked about it but they didn't have a lot of details on it.


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