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dabler
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Dec 06, 2010 10:34 |  #1

Hi all, need a bit of advice on a lens for motorsport. Mainly for shooting rallys.
My friend has a budget of £500 so he was thinking either the 70-300is or the 70-200l.
If you could only buy one which lens would it be?


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Dec 06, 2010 10:54 |  #2

if those are your choices, the 70-200L for sure.

for rally, I would wonder if you wouldn't want a bit more wide angle. just depends on where he plans to setup. if he is going to be hitting the slower hairpins, 70 is way too long.




  
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Dec 06, 2010 10:59 as a reply to  @ Flores's post |  #3

Cheers for that. I'm sure he has the wider end covered already. Thought the 70-2oo would be the better choice.


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Dec 06, 2010 12:11 |  #4

dabler wrote in post #11404124 (external link)
My friend has a budget of £500 so he was thinking either the 70-300is or the 70-200l.

Actual motorsports images from a Canon 70-300mm IS USM lens.

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This lens has worked extremely well at a number of motorsports events.



  
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Dec 06, 2010 12:27 as a reply to  @ DC Fan's post |  #5

Very good images. Looks like the 70-300 is more than up to the job. I had this lens also before i sold it to fund the 100-400l and it performed really well for wildlife but i never tried it for motorsport.
How do you find the focusing speed with fast moving subjects? Do you think the 70-200 would give a higher percentage of keepers?


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Dec 08, 2010 16:25 |  #6

dabler wrote in post #11404124 (external link)
Hi all, need a bit of advice on a lens for motorsport. Mainly for shooting rallys.
My friend has a budget of £500 so he was thinking either the 70-300is or the 70-200l.
If you could only buy one which lens would it be?



By Rallies i assume you mean our typical, dull, dreary UK Forest Rallies, i'd be saving some more cash and buying a 70-200 f2.8. Canon if he feels like splashing out, Sigma if he has more sense than money.

Sigma 70-200 f2.8 EX DG on a Canon 7D...

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And the same lens on my old 20D...

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Dec 08, 2010 16:38 |  #7

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=3​&APIComp=2 (external link)

this link is so awesome.

i still wonder if 70mm is too 'close' for rally, but I guess it just depends on where you stand in the stage :D




  
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Dec 08, 2010 17:20 |  #8

For UK forest rallies, I mostly use a 70-200mm on both full frame and crop. But a wide angle lens often gets used if I find a nice hairpin.

Similarly I can use up to 500mm looking down long straights. But it's 70-200mm that sees the most use.

Although rallies happen all year, they are the most fun in the colder months. Lack of light is often an issue, both from being under the forest canopy and short days. IS, wide aperture and high iso all come in handy. The more of these you have, the longer you can shoot before resorting to flash.

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Dec 09, 2010 15:27 as a reply to  @ John Hudson's post |  #9

Hi

I was in a similar situation and my choice was between 70-200 2.8L and a 70-200 4L IS. After much thought and advice from various sources I went with the 2.8. F/stop rules.


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Jan 03, 2011 13:06 |  #10

what about a 35-300mm L lens?




  
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Jan 03, 2011 18:06 |  #11

Robert.P wrote in post #11564865 (external link)
what about a 35-300mm L lens?

may or may not be 'fast' enough...

depends on the kind of pics you want to take, though. the biggest problem with relatively inexpensive zoom lenses (relative in comparison to an L series prime) is that you have to make up for the smaller aperture in other ways (bump iso, slower shutter speed), which may compromise your intended 'look'.

or not. :D

If your looking to take something that can be high quality enough to be blown up into a poster that people can stand a foot away from, and not ask 'why is this blurry?', AND you want to do it over and over and over again, your lens requirements are different than someone who wants a cool picture to put as the background on their computer. the smaller use will tolerate a lot more 'noise' and you won't be able to see the edges are fuzzy.




  
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Jan 04, 2011 03:55 |  #12

When shooting rallies or pretty much any motorsport I use pretty much all of the following on both my 1D MkII and 40D bodies

Canon 300/2.8
Canon 100-400/4.5-5.6
Canon 70-200/2.8
Canon 20-35/3.5-4.5
Canon 10-22/3.5-4.5
Sigma 10/2.8 fisheye
Also attach either the 2X and 1.4X Extenders.

What lens you use depends on what you want to achieve


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Jan 05, 2011 03:13 as a reply to  @ philwillmedia's post |  #13

For UK rallies I would suggest Sigma 70-200 f2.8 - similar price to the Canon f4 L version but faster.

If you do circuit work I'd look at Sigma 100-300 f4 as being very good for the money and a more sensible focal length for this.

If your budget expands there are others but those are the two I would consider.


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Jan 08, 2011 16:06 |  #14

Personally, I feel the Canon 70-200 f2.8L is THE lens for Rallying, and by far gets the most use for me on events, however it's significantly over budget by around £200 or so.

As Andrew has mentioned above, the Sigma 70-200 f2.8 is possibly up to the job, but I've heard alot about problems regarding sticking blades and focusing issues especially in poor light.

The over-riding message though, is that f2.8 is an absolute must for Rallying in the UK. I noticed a massive difference when I upgraded from the f4 version especially in poor light, when the 2.8 is vital.

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