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Jan 15, 2011 20:05 |  #31

This is pretty funny and will be interesting to watch how it unfolds.


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Jan 15, 2011 20:13 |  #32

It is pretty deceptive to include the specs for the camera as the first thing in the ad. Plus ... if it is "new and unopened", how did he remove the camera that was inside the box?




  
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Jan 15, 2011 20:18 |  #33

duane0524 wrote in post #11648814 (external link)
This is pretty funny and will be interesting to watch how it unfolds.

We know how it will end. He will cancel the listing early, or it will end with the buyer refusing to pay. If the buyer does pay, he'll quickly file a dispute and be granted a return.

hfgarris wrote in post #11648854 (external link)
It is pretty deceptive to include the specs for the camera as the first thing in the ad. Plus ... if it is "new and unopened", how did he remove the camera that was inside the box?

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Jan 15, 2011 20:25 |  #34

hfgarris wrote in post #11648854 (external link)
It is pretty deceptive to include the specs for the camera as the first thing in the ad. Plus ... if it is "new and unopened", how did he remove the camera that was inside the box?

The first (boxed) section of the listing is provided by eBay itself. You get that by listing an item in a certain category. This is where miscategorizing will come in play. By listing only the "brand new" box in the Camera category, eBay automatically placed the section with their own description of what's "brand new" and they added the rest of camera description. Very deceiving, I agree.


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Jan 15, 2011 21:19 |  #35

et078 wrote in post #11648899 (external link)
The first (boxed) section of the listing is provided by eBay itself. You get that by listing an item in a certain category. This is where miscategorizing will come in play. By listing only the "brand new" box in the Camera category, eBay automatically placed the section with their own description of what's "brand new" and they added the rest of camera description. Very deceiving, I agree.

I use a Mac program, GarageSale, to create my eBay ads, so I haven't used the eBay interface for quite a while, so it may be added automatically. I have to specifically request that "product data block" be added to my ad with GarageSale, so then I am responsible for its presence in the ad.

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Jan 15, 2011 21:26 |  #36

this one just ended http://cgi.ebay.com …3333244QQautore​freshZtrue (external link)


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Jan 15, 2011 21:28 |  #37

here is a listing with a buy it now for $350 less than the one that just ended http://cgi.ebay.com …kid%3D639899931​4814005289 (external link)


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Jan 15, 2011 22:01 |  #38

People sometimes only see what they want to see; they don't look at the whole picture. Its much like looking through the viewfinder and only focusing on the subject and missing a problem in the background. These folks bidding on the boxes saw the title and didn't read the description. You find boxes for sale in the lens category too.

However, as a seller how can you let this go through? You got to know there is going to be a problem here so why let it happen. Greed can be a problem too.


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Jan 17, 2011 19:44 |  #39

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@moose10101 - i didn't say categories don't have anything to do with it, just said don't give the category too much credit...i guess you don't peruse ebay much...the categories are not *strict* per se...there are many items that loosely fit categories, and this is one of them...

eBay removed the listing because it violated at least one of their policies. I guess I peruse eBay enough to know how much they'll let people get away with.




  
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Jan 17, 2011 19:55 |  #40

i'm guessing they removed it cause of complaints...had the box sold for $0.50 with no complaints, would they removed it cause the category? highly unlikely...




  
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Jan 17, 2011 23:45 |  #41

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i'm guessing they removed it cause of complaints...had the box sold for $0.50 with no complaints, would they removed it cause the category? highly unlikely...

I'm slightly surprised they removed it--an abnormal number of complaints due to viewing here is likely the cause :D

If the auction had ended successfully, they would not have removed/invalidated the listing. I've reported something similar in the past, and it took them 3 bloody days to respond--by that time the auction was over. I got a nicely worded message thanking me for the report, but that the listing was now closed and outside of their control.


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Jan 18, 2011 01:05 |  #42

MOkoFOko wrote in post #11663347 (external link)
I'm slightly surprised they removed it--an abnormal number of complaints due to viewing here is likely the cause :D

If the auction had ended successfully, they would not have removed/invalidated the listing. I've reported something similar in the past, and it took them 3 bloody days to respond--by that time the auction was over. I got a nicely worded message thanking me for the report, but that the listing was now closed and outside of their control.

I am just wondering what people actually reported. I checked the eBay's list of things that an auction can be reported about, but there was no "wrong category", or anything similar to that. Nothing else on the list was applicable to this auction (no excessive shipping charge, item is not a fake, no stolen pictures,....).
The item was indeed listed in the wrong category, and that, in my opinion, should be enough for the item to be removed. However, as I stated, eBay doesn't seem to care about it as they don't provide a way to report this. Other than that, I think that the biggest problem was the bidders not reading the full auction description and the seller taking advantage of that.


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Jan 18, 2011 01:22 |  #43

et078 wrote in post #11663630 (external link)
I am just wondering what people actually reported. I checked the eBay's list of things that an auction can be reported about, but there was no "wrong category", or anything similar to that. Nothing else on the list was applicable to this auction (no excessive shipping charge, item is not a fake, no stolen pictures,....).
The item was indeed listed in the wrong category, and that, in my opinion, should be enough for the item to be removed. However, as I stated, eBay doesn't seem to care about it as they don't provide a way to report this. Other than that, I think that the biggest problem was the bidders not reading the full auction description and the seller taking advantage of that.

Not much to take advantage of there--in all cases, the seller comes out the loser if the buyer is not satisfied with the results. He loses both shipping costs and time, and risks negative feedback. It's better for him that it's been closed prematurely.


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Jan 18, 2011 01:36 |  #44

MOkoFOko wrote in post #11663682 (external link)
Not much to take advantage of there--in all cases, the seller comes out the loser if the buyer is not satisfied with the results. He loses both shipping costs and time, and risks negative feedback. It's better for him that it's been closed prematurely.

I agree. This probably saved the seller from getting negative feedback and paying for shipping both ways.


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Jan 18, 2011 01:38 |  #45

et078 wrote in post #11663739 (external link)
I agree. This probably saved the seller from getting negative feedback and paying for shipping both ways.

Seller isn't required to pay return shipping--ebay requires that the buyer send it back on their own dime. But, a lot of sellers will offer to pay return costs to avoid negative feedback and low DSRs...

Forgot, if you get a listing taken down for listing policy violations, that goes on your record. Too many of those, and you become ineligible for TRS status, discounts... and eventually they close your account.


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