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Want to make the move to full frame, but im scared.

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Jan 24, 2011 23:27 |  #1

It seems like this forum is a lot better than most photography forums. And best of all, it's all about canon! yay!

Okay, so I've had my Rebel XT for a long time. Since Rebel XTs were the hit.. what was that.. 5-6 years ago? And I must say, I'm a guy who loves his nifty fifty. I pretty much got the XT body and the 50mm 1.8. I eventually got a low end zoom lens, but I thought the 50mm was always so much better! I eventually sold the zoom lens(28-105mm I believe) and got the 50mm 1.4. Oh yeah. What happened to the 50mm 1.8? I traded it for an iPhone. I thought it was a good deal. I phone + no contract = win. But last week I was out with the friend who I traded the 50mm 1.8 with and I dropped it and had to give him 100 bucks. so that wasnt too fun.

At the time when I got the XT I figured this was a good step up from me, and it would be a great body to learn on. but it's weird... there really isn't any legitimate reason to upgrade. It takes pictures just fine, when used properly it takes great shots. yada yada yada..

So at the moment my large lens collection consists of the 50mm 1.4, which is fine. Except.. sometimes it's trouble some. On the 1.6x crop it's not always great. Sometimes there just isnt enough room to walk back with out falling off something, or getting hit by car. This is where I think a FF would be useful. A 50mm on an FF is much more convenient, but not only that, I've always admired the quality FF sensors produce. Lastly, and this is actually the main thing, it's starting to hurt my hands when I hold the XT. It's just waaay too small. I've been saving up for the 17-5mm 2.8 EF-S which would give me crisp pictures as well as a good wide angle. But.. for around the same price I could get a 5D classic, and keep the 50mm, which I'd be completely happy with.

I just wanted to see what you guys thought. I know the 5D is old, but it takes good pics non the less. I've been concidering getting the 5D mk2, but that's mainly for it's video capabilities. My friends and I make videos, and I think a 5D mk2 with the 50mm 1.4 would be amazing. But price of course is an issue. I feel like if I were to get the 5D mk2, that I should just wait a year or so until the 5d MK3 comes out, and get a 5D mk2 at a lower price. It would still be more than I'd like to spend, and really video capability is just an extra that I dont exactly require. It would be nice, but photography is my main thing which is why I lean towards the 5D classic the most. the "I'm scared" part really is the fear of making the wrong choice. So what do you folks with more expertise think?

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Jan 24, 2011 23:47 |  #2

In all honesty, if I were you, I would buy the 5d Mark II. Granted, if money allowed me too. Full frame is nice but the video that the 5dII can put out gives me enough reason to buy it alone. If anything you can always sell your 5dII when the 5DIII comes out and hopefully you won't lose a lot of money but have enough to cover your expenses if you needed, really wanted the 5dIII.

I'm not sure if I helped you at all but bottom line for me the 5DII and enjoy what you can out of the camera. It seems as if the XT no longer suits you or it no longer pleases you if I must say. :P

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Jan 25, 2011 00:07 |  #3

I've actually heard quite a few people say they prefer the 5D MkI to the MkII. However, I don't think I'll be moving to full frame anytime soon, so I can't speak on that.

Have you tried any lenses in the 20-30mm range? Maybe try renting one to see if you think it's wide enough on your crop. Personally, I think I'll be a crop-sensor kind of guy for quite a while, but if those don't do it for you, I'd go for the 5D.

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Jan 25, 2011 00:42 |  #4

welcome to the forum!
check out the 5d thread:​ad.php?t=857115

a 5d will not disappoint. just dont drop it!

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Jan 25, 2011 01:14 |  #5

sally_tomato wrote in post #11709239 (external link)
welcome to the forum!
check out the 5d thread:​ad.php?t=857115

a 5d will not disappoint. just dont drop it!

Definitely check out the link above before you rule out the 5D (not MkII). I'm holding out for the MkIII, or whatever it might be called.

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Jan 25, 2011 05:43 |  #6

Sep9000 wrote in post #11708927 (external link)
... there really isn't any legitimate reason to upgrade...

The question becomes why do it.

Sep9000 wrote in post #11708927 (external link)
... the "I'm scared" part really is the fear of making the wrong choice...

If you're not confident about making the right choice on a new camera, then you're probably not yet ready to upgrade.
If there's no reason to, why do it.

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Jan 25, 2011 05:46 |  #7

Get the 5D classic now, you can find them for $900. Shoot with it for about 6 months. When there is a new announcement in the fall period, snag a 5D2 at a projected used value of $1600-1700, and sell the 5D for $800.

The alternative is to get a Sigma 30mm f1.4 instead of the 50mm to give you more room with what you have.

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Jan 25, 2011 05:50 |  #8

Why not just get wider glass?

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Jan 25, 2011 06:07 as a reply to  @ LowriderS10's post |  #9

Trade your 50 for the Sigma 30mm f/1.4.

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Jan 25, 2011 06:51 |  #10

It sounds like you've been pretty patient, you've held onto equipment for a while and gotten a lot out of it - if you've got the money just look at it as treating yourself. It doesn't always have to be overly justified.

The 5D2 sounds like the right sort of camera for you. The 7D would probably also be a huge upgrade for you too, still give you video, but you'd need to look at an alternative to the 50mm (i.e. Sigma 30). It wont be the same, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper too.

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Jan 25, 2011 07:01 |  #11

Try out the Sigma 30mm first.

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Jan 25, 2011 07:12 |  #12

Glass before body, always.
Get a 24-105 and then a FF in the future. The 24-105 gives you lots of FL options and is a great lens on a FF body. Your 50 gives you a fast lens.

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Jan 25, 2011 07:14 |  #13

Apart from a wider prime (insert Sigma 30mm or the Canon 28mm) do consider a battery grip. I found this extremely useful on my 450D and balances well on my larger heavier glass.

Honestly the biggest jump in terms of Image Quality would be an investment in glass. The rebel is very capable camera and with proper "grain" reducing software I have been able to shoot at ISO 1600 where before I had to stop using it beyond ISO 400.

Which glass? It's dependent on if you are going to full frame anytime soon. My 24L II literally lives on the 450D.

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Jan 25, 2011 07:17 |  #14

Sep9000 wrote in post #11708927 (external link)
Lastly, and this is actually the main thing, it's starting to hurt my hands when I hold the XT. It's just waaay too small.

Make sure you handle the 5D or 5D Mark II before buying one. I find mine uncomfortable. It may be you'll find *all* Canon bodies you could ever afford uncomfortable, in which case it would be a bad idea to spend money on Canon lenses.

Also make sure you're holding your XT correctly according to the manual.

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Jan 25, 2011 07:17 |  #15

I have 5D and previously had some crop cameras, one of them was 40D. The 5D was a huge upgrade for me, I always had a struggle with lenses wasn't wide enough on crop cameras. Now I mainly use 35L on my 5D and it works great. Image quality is a lot better than 40D.

If Live View and video is important then 5D Mark II is probably a better option because that's missing on the 5D. I would focus on getting good lenses before a new camera and if you feel you are happy with your current camera you might want to look into buy new lenses instead.

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