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Jan 31, 2011 06:36 |  #1

Ok, so here in sunny South Africa our mulitcultural languages tends to make us pronounce some words differently... How on earth do you pronounce Bokeh and Vignetting?

Anyone care to upload an audio clip? :-)


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Jan 31, 2011 06:42 |  #2

Vin-YETting
BOE-kah (IMO, I'm not 100% certain and Japanese doesn't really have accented syllables).


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Jan 31, 2011 06:43 |  #3

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Ok, so here in sunny South Africa our mulitcultural languages tends to make us pronounce some words differently... How on earth do you pronounce Bokeh and Vignetting?

Anyone care to upload an audio clip? :-)

Not going to upload an audio, but "bokeh" comes from Japanese and seems to be pronounced in several ways, depending on where the speaker lives...
Here, for example, we say a clipped "bo" as in box, plus a hard "keh" as in the forename Ken.

As to vignetting, I guess that's from French, so I say "vin" as in vintage, then "nye" plus "ting".
I'll leave someone else to explain more....

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Jan 31, 2011 07:05 |  #4

Cool... I think I got vignetting under the collar... Bokeh... that's a little more tricky, but who knows... :-)

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Jan 31, 2011 07:18 |  #5

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Cool... I think I got vignetting under the collar... Bokeh... that's a little more tricky, but who knows... :-)

Thanks Simon and Anton

You're welcome, and like I suggested, go with the way the locals pronounce it and at least you'll be understood where you live!
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Jan 31, 2011 07:18 |  #6

Haha. I have this exact conversation every time I speak about photography! :) I pronounce Vignette as "Vinnet" and I'm from Cape Town too :P

Now with Bokeh, let's just say "Bokkie", "Bokke" or "Bukkie" and really confuse people ;)


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Jan 31, 2011 07:31 |  #7

Hahaha Sasman.... Let's just go around calling everyone Bokkie.


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Jan 31, 2011 07:33 |  #8

I always pronounce bokeh like bouquet (a bouquet of flowers).


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Jan 31, 2011 07:43 |  #9

HaroldC3 wrote in post #11747776 (external link)
I always pronounce bokeh like bouquet (a bouquet of flowers).

Better to ask...


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Jan 31, 2011 07:54 |  #10

Vignette has a silent G and sounds something like "vin yet" here in the U.S..

I don't say bokeh and very seldom write it.... :rolleyes:


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Jan 31, 2011 07:59 |  #11

So bokeh is really just how blurry it is behind your focus point? Why couldn't someone english come up with a nice term other than "the pretty blurriness behind the person" :-)


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Jan 31, 2011 08:06 |  #12

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So bokeh is really just how blurry it is behind your focus point?

NO. "Bokeh", as adapted for use in photographic lingo, refers only to the (truly undefinable) qualities of the out-of-focus background elements of a scene. In other words, there is "good bokeh", "bad bokeh", and "so-so bokeh", all referring to how the viewer of a photo is impressed with the appearance of the blurry background elements of the image.

The word "bokeh", though, is not supposed to be a synonym for "blurry background elements", though many newbies tend to adopt it to mean that. In other words, there is no such thing as "more bokeh" or "less bokeh".


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Jan 31, 2011 08:08 |  #13

Ok... So it's not quantifiable. Thanks Skip, good to understand what it really means. So a creamier background would generally be a good bokeh?


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Jan 31, 2011 08:14 |  #14

Warren_Groenewald wrote in post #11747903 (external link)
Ok... So it's not quantifiable. Thanks Skip, good to understand what it really means. So a creamier background would generally be a good bokeh?

Please don't make us puke with the term "creamier" :rolleyes:. However, smoother transitions from one element to another is what some folks like to see.

Everybody's opinions can vary and still not be wrong with something like this. It's just like composition of photos. Some folks like things that others don't.


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Jan 31, 2011 08:19 |  #15

Ok... Creamier has also been scrapped from my vocab. You're pretty hard on us newbies hey Skip!
I really admire a good bokeh, not so easy to achieve all the time on the lenses I own.


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