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Jan 31, 2011 22:44 |  #211

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Problem is I don't shoot at one location. I move around. It is pain to pack everything or lift everything you want to move 10-15 feet. With rollers I can just roll around. And the casters have wheel for bracking so I can't imagine stands walking away.

Bobby, if i did location work and moved my set up around quite a bit i would customize a 2 wheeled hand dolly

i would have air tires and use a vagabond to weigh it down on the front and on the backside i would have adjustable legs that pivot out over the wheels like the turtle stand

next i would have rings on the uprights i could insert the adjustable riser to mount my strobe

my modifiers would sit on the front side of the cart when transporting everything

so in short basically i would combine a turtle stand to a hand dolly loaded up with what i need :)


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Jan 31, 2011 22:50 |  #212

Something like this will be nice if available with better lighstand.

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Jan 31, 2011 22:53 |  #213

FJ LOVE wrote in post #11753400 (external link)
Bobby, if i did location work and moved my set up around quite a bit i would customize a 2 wheeled hand dolly

i would have air tires and use a vagabond to weigh it down on the front and on the backside i would have adjustable legs that pivot out over the wheels like the turtle stand

next i would have rings on the uprights i could insert the adjustable riser to mount my strobe

my modifiers would sit on the front side of the cart when transporting everything

so in short basically i would combine a turtle stand to a hand dolly loaded up with what i need :)

I know some wedding photog who has a wheeled suitcase for his camera/lights where a stand comes out and he's got beauty dish sticking up there with his batery in the suitcase. Compared to what this forum people have his setup doesn't look that solid but he makes lot more money than most of us here.

What I am doing right now is using cheap foldable cart like kids radio flyer. It can easily hold my lighstands, vagabond and all camera stuff and I roll this but I can only use it in parks etc. And wheels aren't big rubber ones for use on the beach. Problem comes when you setup and then need to move. I have tried simple painter's pole and it worked quite nice but then I need assistant al the time.


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Jan 31, 2011 23:13 |  #214

bobbyz wrote in post #11753429 (external link)
Something like this will be nice if available with better lighstand.

http://www.youtube.com …w&feature=playe​r_embedded (external link)

I've always liked the Tricoast setup with the big rubber wheels, but they never produced them. Doesn't look hard to make, some welding. Stand with C stand riser would be great.


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Jan 31, 2011 23:17 |  #215

pnmd wrote in post #11753562 (external link)
I've always liked the Tricoast setup with the big rubber wheels, but they never produced them. Doesn't look hard to make, some welding. Stand with C stand riser would be great.

He is selling them for $400 shipped.


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Jan 31, 2011 23:20 as a reply to  @ bobbyz's post |  #216

You could more easily adapt a hand truck with wheels. I have a hand truck that I got for $50 and I'm sure that if I brainstormed a bit I could create something similar and very functional.

It's not a bad idea. I'll add it to my list of things to do before Spring. :D


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Jan 31, 2011 23:55 |  #217

tetrode wrote in post #11752241 (external link)
The junior receiver is shallower and the riser column's junior pin is shorter than on the Avenger counterpart. This photo clearly shows the difference in receiver depth:

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And another view of the bases side-by-side:

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Dave,

Can a Super Clamp fit on the bottom nub of the Avenger? I assume that's a rigid piece of steel? When the legs are positioned, does it spin or stay aligned with the C-Stand center column?




  
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Jan 31, 2011 23:58 |  #218

tetrode wrote in post #11752241 (external link)
I'm a little late to the game, but I do have some experience with the Cheetah C-stands. Last summer I did a comparison of the Cheetah C-stand against an Avenger. As Rob said, they are good value at their price. That said, be aware that they are not Avenger quality.

The Cheetah versions I examined were stable but not quite as stable as The Avenger turtle base C-stand I had on hand. Here's the reason:

Depending upon your requirements, that's either a good thing or a not so good thing.

Last point: The Cheetah C-stand has springs in the riser column which, while not as effective as air-cushioning, do help minimize the effects of unintended acceleration of a loaded riser section.

The Cheetah chrome C-stand with grip arm kit is really something of a steal at $100. The included grip arm is 50" long whereas an Avenger arm is 40". The provided arm also terminates at each end in a 5/8" stud which is quite useful. The included grip head is not as nice as a D200 but is certainly fine. It relies on interlocking toothed surfaces to prevent slippage.

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Thanks for posting that Dave, excellent comparison. I think I'll give the Cheetah a try.


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Feb 01, 2011 00:08 |  #219

bobbyz wrote in post #11753596 (external link)
He is selling them for $400 shipped.

kinda expensive but may be worth it when summer hits and more location work occurs.

Robert build a kit for us! ;)


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Feb 01, 2011 08:38 |  #220

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You could more easily adapt a hand truck with wheels. I have a hand truck that I got for $50 and I'm sure that if I brainstormed a bit I could create something similar and very functional.

Please please.

Mike was earlier suppose to provide plans to convert regular light stand to use big wheels. But then he decided to market them. Not sure if he sold any at $400.


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Feb 01, 2011 08:42 |  #221

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Why do you suppose they mounted the wheels so far from the ends of the legs?

I found the reason on mathews web site last night. The wheels are inside so that when you fold the stand it can still lean on the wall or stand upright without rolling.


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Feb 01, 2011 08:43 |  #222

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The 5017 is an excellent stand. I have a few and love them.. BUT, I don't think it's the go-to stand even with arms unless you're just offsetting the strobe by a few inches from the center post.

Counterweights are great but the footprint on the 5017 (same as 5033) is a bit small. I typically do not use 5017's when I need to fly a light with modifier off the end of an arm. The 5017 with an arm, strobe and modifier can easily tip the stand into one of its spaces in between the 3 legs.

Just my opinion.

Robert - One more question. So would this roller stand work if I wasn't using any boom with it, just the modifier on the center column? I like the low legs with regular light stand legs they tend to get into the frame.


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Feb 01, 2011 08:50 |  #223

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Robert - One more question. So would this roller stand work if I wasn't using any boom with it, just the modifier on the center column? I like the low legs with regular light stand legs they tend to get into the frame.

The 5017 is fantastic when used with a strobe mounted directly on the top baby pin. Like with any stand, if you don't need extreme forward angles it's great and doesn't require the use of any other grip gear.

I use my 5017's like that quite a bit. Love 'em!!!

Not only are the legs not going to be in frame as often but they are far less imposing in your camera room.


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Feb 01, 2011 09:25 |  #224

TMR Design wrote in post #11755344 (external link)
The 5017 is fantastic when used with a strobe mounted directly on the top baby pin. Like with any stand, if you don't need extreme forward angles it's great and doesn't require the use of any other grip gear.

I use my 5017's like that quite a bit. Love 'em!!!

Not only are the legs not going to be in frame as often but they are far less imposing in your camera room.

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Feb 01, 2011 11:08 |  #225

Nice examples of mathews and booms on Kelby's blog....scroll down and look at both fashion portrait sections....


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