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Feb 04, 2011 15:16 |  #1

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Feb 04, 2011 15:35 |  #2

well it's cheap compared to the 1200mm L :)...speaking of mirror lenses you have any experience with an olympus 400mm f5.6?...saw one on ebay the other day for the first time


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Feb 04, 2011 16:03 |  #3

No, but I laugh at some of the prices I see on eBay for that OLY and some other mirrors. Once you throw out the extreme (over $4K) mirror lenses the best ever made was the Canon S.S.C. 500/8 - easily convertted to EF mount. I have sold a few and wished I had kept one for myself. You would not believe how sharp it is even with a 1.4x TC or a 2x TC. Ok, funny bokeh if you don't control that and not for handholding!


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Feb 04, 2011 16:30 |  #4

Are you guys familiar with the Minolta Rokkor X 500mm f8?
Someone is actually selling it locally for 50 bucks and I am a little bit interested :D


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Feb 04, 2011 17:51 |  #5

gasrocks wrote in post #11777885 (external link)
No, but I laugh at some of the prices I see on eBay for that OLY and some other mirrors. Once you throw out the extreme (over $4K) mirror lenses the best ever made was the Canon S.S.C. 500/8 - easily convertted to EF mount. I have sold a few and wished I had kept one for myself. You would not believe how sharp it is even with a 1.4x TC or a 2x TC. Ok, funny bokeh if you don't control that and not for handholding!

Very interesting. Not the case with my Tamron 500/8 (which I love anyway, weight especially :)).


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Feb 05, 2011 00:56 as a reply to  @ CheshireCat's post |  #6

Here is a bit more on this lens..

The first reflex Nikkor was not designed for the SLRs. Instead, a Reflex-Nikkor 1000mm f6.3 was Nikon first catadioptric (Mirror) lens designed for the Nikon S series of rangefinder cameras. The same lens was replicated and supplied with a Nikon F Bayonet mount to be used for the reflex Nikon F in 1959 (Nikon rangefinder camera to the Nikon F-mount SLRs with an accessory by mounting the N-F tube.). The bulky Mirror-Nikkor 100cm f/6.3 weighs a massive 10kg and has a 5 elements in 3 groups design. It focuses down to 98.4 ft (30m) and has a filter attachment size of 224mm. However, there was an additional 52mm revolving filter with L39, Y52, O56, R60 and three ND filters for stepping apertures down to f/11, f/16 and f/22.

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100cm f/6.3 Reflex Nikkor

It has a built-in bellows focusing mechanism operated by a thumb-wheel which allowed for very smooth, and light focusing. It came with a gray metal carrying case and the entire outfit weighs nearly 30 pounds!

Referencefor this 1000mm f6.3 lens: Robert Rotoloni, author of the "Nikon Rangefinder Camera" by Hove collector's Book.
This lens was Nikon first optic that has a gray colour outfit. With popular belief that the light gray colour may reduced chances of shifting precise alignment of the catadioptric lens elements. The gigantical Reflex Nikkor 2000mm (external link) f/11 - the longest commercial production focal length of Mirror lens for 35mm SLR photography carries similar concept and thus also has a light gray exterior. The Mirror-Nikkor 10cm f/6.3 has a two carrying handles on top of the lens for easy carrying. The lens data of 10cm was believed to have been changed to 1000mm in 1964. A year later in October, 1965, Nikon replaced the lens with a new version which has a slower maximum aperture of f/11.

Interesting lens!!!


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Feb 05, 2011 02:01 |  #7

Good mirror lenses are very sharp and have got a good contrast level. I always take one in my pocket as a travel lens ..
I have put many samples in this thread ...
https://photography-on-the.net …t=971172&highli​ght=mirror

Just for fun some good pictures I got ...

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even with a good AF confirm chip with trap function, it can be used for sports matters

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Feb 05, 2011 09:44 |  #8
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FuturamaJSP wrote in post #11778083 (external link)
Are you guys familiar with the Minolta Rokkor X 500mm f8?
Someone is actually selling it locally for 50 bucks and I am a little bit interested :D

If you don't want it, I'll buy if from you and convert it.

I've already converted two Sig. 600mm's in Minolta. One was converted directly to Canon EF, the other to M42:

http://forum.manualfoc​us.org/viewtopic.php?i​d=11381 (external link)




  
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Feb 05, 2011 10:04 |  #9

newworld666 wrote in post #11780585 (external link)
Good mirror lenses are very sharp and have got a good contrast level. I always take one in my pocket as a travel lens ..
I have put many samples in this thread ...
https://photography-on-the.net …t=971172&highli​ght=mirror

Just for fun some good pictures I got ...

even with a good AF confirm chip with trap function, it can be used for sports matters

This tends to dispel the theory that mirror lenses are junk!

VERY nice shots!

I kept my Canon SSC 500 f/8 mirror and converted to EF mount. Glad I did, too!


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Feb 05, 2011 11:39 as a reply to  @ richardfox's post |  #10

Wow those are some really nice shots. I always thought these things were huge. Pretty compact & easy to travel with though?




  
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Feb 05, 2011 13:07 |  #11

djre4orm wrote in post #11782210 (external link)
Wow those are some really nice shots. I always thought these things were huge. Pretty compact & easy to travel with though?

Here's my 500 f/8 mirror converted to EF mount. You can see how short this lens is in relationship to the lens cap it's sitting on.


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