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Feb 05, 2011 11:52 |  #181

palwin wrote in post #11781955 (external link)
Here's a preview (http://everythingphoto​.net/?p=53 (external link)) of the camera, same guy who wrote the article on a well known Norwegian site. He says that the camera is bigger than it might seem in pictures.

I would like a camera with interchangeable lenses but I can understand if Fujifilm don't want to do that, at this time any way. Looks like it will be a Leica for me but until I have the money for that I will get the X100.

I rarely have gear itch but man, I want this cam! The preview killed it for me a little bit... Decent image quality? for $1200 and this sensor size the IQ must be around the best SLR cameras out there.


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Feb 05, 2011 13:29 |  #182

palwin wrote in post #11781955 (external link)
I would like a camera with interchangeable lenses but I can understand if Fujifilm don't want to do that, at this time any way. Looks like it will be a Leica for me but until I have the money for that I will get the X100.

I also understand where they're coming from. Their two choices would basically be to start up an entire new division in order to create their own line of lenses, or give their camera a Canon or Nikon (or, who the hell knows, a Sony or Olympus) mount like, for example, the Kodak DCS Pro series did a while back. Still, it would be awesome.


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Feb 05, 2011 13:36 |  #183

palwin wrote in post #11781955 (external link)
I would like a camera with interchangeable lenses but I can understand if Fujifilm don't want to do that, at this time any way. Looks like it will be a Leica for me but until I have the money for that I will get the X100.

If you want a camera with interchangeable lenses, there are tons of them out there already. Samsung NX, Olympus m4/3, Sony NEX, Leica, not to mention all the SLR systems.


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Feb 05, 2011 13:39 |  #184

I think everyone wants an M9 for $1200. :lol:




  
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Feb 05, 2011 13:41 |  #185

VinnieJ wrote in post #11782746 (external link)
I think everyone wants an M9 for $1200. :lol:

what's wrong with that? it's not like it's impossible - those Leicas cost about 100 bucks to make :)


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Feb 05, 2011 14:23 |  #186

VinnieJ wrote in post #11782746 (external link)
I think everyone wants an M9 for $1200. :lol:

I don't think it will compare to the Leica. But I think it will be close enough that %99.9 percent of people will not be able to tell the difference. With that said, I also think it will sell like gang busters. Some people will love the simplicity, like mac users love the simplicity of using the mac. Not a lot of options in iMovie but you get in and get out with minimal fuss.

Its time to the x100rumors.com site. ;-)a

korrektor wrote in post #11782757 (external link)
what's wrong with that? it's not like it's impossible - those Leicas cost about 100 bucks to make :)

Really! with the smiley I know your joking. But I can tell you if it cost $1200 it probably cost over $600 to make.


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Feb 05, 2011 14:25 |  #187

cptrios wrote in post #11782696 (external link)
I also understand where they're coming from. Their two choices would basically be to start up an entire new division in order to create their own line of lenses, or give their camera a Canon or Nikon (or, who the hell knows, a Sony or Olympus) mount like, for example, the Kodak DCS Pro series did a while back. Still, it would be awesome.

Either way the X100 could finance such a move.


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Feb 05, 2011 15:18 |  #188

davidfig wrote in post #11782974 (external link)
Either way the X100 could finance such a move.

Do you think so? I feel like this is going to be a bit like the Chevy Volt is at present; a niche product with low production levels outpaced by moderate demand. In other words, a success in Fuji's eyes but not enough to finance an entirely new operation. Enough to merit an update a couple of years down the line with an improved (i.e. f/1.4) lens? Hopefully!


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Feb 05, 2011 16:32 |  #189

VinnieJ wrote in post #11782746 (external link)
I think everyone wants an M9 for $1200. :lol:

the bessa has been a poor mans leica for decades. Seems like ther should be something to fill that void for digital


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Feb 05, 2011 17:01 |  #190

tkbslc wrote in post #11783603 (external link)
the bessa has been a poor mans leica for decades. Seems like ther should be something to fill that void for digital

I think many of us are waiting for an EVIL camera targeted at a more professional audience, which means a good control layout and no space wasted for unnecessary gimmicks.
A viewfinder like the X100's would be perfect for such a camera.

I'm curious who'll be the first company to build one (with or without the hybrid-VF). I'm guessing Nikon.
(no insult to Olympus and Panasonic, they build good cameras, but for different target audiences IMHO)


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Feb 05, 2011 17:35 |  #191

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I think many of us are waiting for an EVIL camera targeted at a more professional audience, which means a good control layout and no space wasted for unnecessary gimmicks.
A viewfinder like the X100's would be perfect for such a camera.

I'm waiting for an EVIL that has an APS sensor (unlike the otherwise attractive E-P series), isn't so big and SLR-ish as to kind of defeat the purpose of having no mirror (the Samsung...it's not really THAT big, but the fact that it looks just like a small SLR is unappealing for some reason), and isn't so small and compact-ish as to feel terrible and look absolutely ridiculous with a lens (the Sony NEX series).

I honestly really like the mild retro quality of the E-Ps (though the X100 is in a league of its own), but the 2x crop is a total dealbreaker. Olympus doesn't make a wideangle prime (the zooms seem unwieldy to me), and to even get as wide as 35mm you'd need a 17mm lens, which don't come all that cheap. And though the crop is slightly appealing to someone who leans more toward telephoto (150mm=300mm? Great), it starts to look a lot less rosy when you realize that none of the AF-capable telephoto lenses have IS, and that handholding such a light system at long FLs is likely to be pretty damn difficult.

O, what a horrible world in which to live!

Edit: OK, so apparently I totally brain-farted as to the existence of the Zuiko 17mm pancake. Please forgive me.


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Feb 05, 2011 18:14 |  #192

Panasonic also makes a 14mm f2.5 and a olympus has a tiny 9-18mm. So really wide is not the issue, IMO. The issue for me is the lack of fast lenses and the limited noise/DOF control of a 2x crop sensor.


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Feb 05, 2011 18:19 |  #193

cptrios wrote in post #11783954 (external link)
O, what a horrible world in which to live!

:lol:

I wouldn't mind a retro-styling either, as long as it's well executed like on the X100.

A X100-style camera with an EF-compatible mount (ability to mount normal EF/EF-S lenses via an extension tube) and a flip-up LCD (not completely articulating) would be fantastic. Along with a line of compact lenses (24/50/85mm f/2) to go with it.


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Feb 05, 2011 18:51 |  #194

tkbslc wrote in post #11784179 (external link)
Panasonic also makes a 14mm f2.5 and a olympus has a tiny 9-18mm. So really wide is not the issue, IMO. The issue for me is the lack of fast lenses and the limited noise/DOF control of a 2x crop sensor.

Honestly that's what I meant to say on top of everything else. I swear! With a 17mm f/2.8 lens on a 2x sensor, you'd pretty much have to be two feet away from your subject in order to get any kind of serious background separation. Perhaps that's an exaggeration, but only a bit. Great for landscapes and such, but for the street candids for which a camera like this would hopefully shine? No good.

By the way, I looked at some reviews, and that 9-18mm actually seems to be a pretty fantastic little lens. Unfortunately, the pancakes (and a pancake is what I'd want) look quite disappointing.

Anyway, back to the freaking X100! Continuing the DoF train of thought, I really wish they'd managed to open the lens up to f/1.4. F/2 is fine, but that extra stop would give you just that wee bit more...


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Feb 05, 2011 20:09 |  #195

tkbslc wrote in post #11782724 (external link)
If you want a camera with interchangeable lenses, there are tons of them out there already. Samsung NX, Olympus m4/3, Sony NEX, Leica, not to mention all the SLR systems.

I haven't seen there are many choices that fits my needs. For me it must have a viewfinder, can't stand cameras where you have to use the LCD-screen to take pictures. I want all important settings to be set using dails on the body and the lens, pretty much want it to be simple as possible. Less is more :) Plus it of course must have very high build quality and image quality.

The way I see it the X100 is the quickest way to get a compact camera that fits my needs more or less without spending the amount of money for a Leica.


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