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Waikiki Sunset w/ ND -8 Filter

 
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Feb 09, 2011 12:30 |  #1

I was testing out my new ND filter yesterday. I was happy with the final (untouched) photo shown below but I know most people may look at the photo and say, wow, way too warm. I tried several white balance adjustments but they all seemed to turn out this way and I started to run out of time of course.

Is there anyone with a lot of ND experience that can give some pointers or maybe some RAW processing tips on how I could make this photo pop some more? Id love to see some more detail around the sun without retouching in Lightroom. Any tips or hate-mail welcome.

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Feb 09, 2011 17:07 |  #2

What the point of using a neutral density filter? As far as I know there's nothing magical about them. You could have gotten the same shot with a faster shutter speed and no filter. They're generally used in order to enable long exposure shots. Doing that here would blur the water movement and perhaps the sailboat, depending on how fast she was moving.


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Feb 09, 2011 19:42 |  #3

Did you mean to write GND filter? I too see no reason why you would use an ND filter for a shot like this one.


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Feb 09, 2011 19:53 as a reply to  @ Phrasikleia's post |  #4

My thoughts exactly...kinda scratching my head. Looking at the EXIF, the SS without a filter would have been 1/1250... If the OP was trying to blur the water, three stops is nowhere enough to do that (not to mention the boat motion to account for). If anything, a GND would have been more appropriate.


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Feb 10, 2011 02:36 |  #5

ok so say I shot it @ 1/1250, how could I, or what could I use to make the sun pop a bit more or appear sharper without post processing?

I broke my Polarizer cheap-o piece of poo Tiffen filter so I ended up buying the ND filter. I like using a ND filter during the day here in Hawaii because I get a lot of opportunities to shoot those long exposures to blur the water and everything. I've shot similar sunsets without the ND but never got this type of result. Maybe it was just my crappy settings and/or experience with the subject. :D




  
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Feb 10, 2011 06:37 |  #6

A graduated neutral-density filter (3 or 4-stop) would have enabled you to record a better exposure on the sun, allowing it to be more than just a burned-out blob on the shot. Graduated ND filters have only half the filter shaded, with the rest clear. Toning down the sky by a few stops in this shot would have made a world of difference, IMHO.

You could also have waited for the sun to set a little more, reducing its intensity, or recomposed with the sun out of the frame. I don't think the image is too warm. Sunsets should be warm, as the color temp of the light is low. A cool sunset wouldn't look natural.


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Feb 10, 2011 07:17 as a reply to  @ gibbit1's post |  #7

As stated earlier, a graduated ND filter (GND) would have served you better. Even if you had waited for the sun to drop below the horizon, the residual light still would have required the use of a GND filter. Under these lighting conditions (your image) a three-stop ND filter is nowhere near strong enough for you to blur the water. We're not knocking you...just letting you know that there are better tools out there that would be more fitting for the situation.


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Feb 10, 2011 07:31 |  #8

Quite honestly, I thought you missed a great opportunity using the ND filter. Would have been pretty cool image to see a 2 sec plus exposure, hopefully the sale boat wouldn't be moving. As far as your color profile, it's not as much an issue since you mentioned the ND filter.


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Feb 12, 2011 12:08 |  #9

Sweet, I'll go pick up a GND filter and give it a try. Thanks guys.




  
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May 05, 2011 20:18 as a reply to  @ travisjryan's post |  #10

What metering mode should I be using with a GND?


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