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Feb 10, 2011 17:24 as a reply to  @ post 11817973 |  #16

^^^^Nailed it.


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Feb 10, 2011 17:57 |  #17

gakoenig wrote in post #11817973 (external link)
So, I build a product that competes against these guys and Black Rapid, so I'm just going to go out front and say this; if you are considering buying a Carry Speed or Q, step up and just buy the Black Rapid.

So you're saying just spend the money whether I like something or not? If I want to examine the concept there's nothing wrong with going with one of these knockoffs. If I don't like it, I'm not out much. Chances are if I really like it I'll go with one of the better ones(Black rapid, sun sniper, luma) whatever. There's not always a resale market where someone lives so buying one and then being stuck with it isn't always a great option. I went with the cheaper one because I wanted to see what it was about. I don't have 'thousands of dollars of gear' and I probably never will, so what difference does it make what I buy with my money? seriously. I've seen a lot of elitist talk on this board and just gets kinda old.


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Feb 10, 2011 18:20 |  #18

K&K_Dad wrote in post #11818268 (external link)
So you're saying just spend the money whether I like something or not? If I want to examine the concept there's nothing wrong with going with one of these knockoffs. If I don't like it, I'm not out much. Chances are if I really like it I'll go with one of the better ones(Black rapid, sun sniper, luma) whatever. There's not always a resale market where someone lives so buying one and then being stuck with it isn't always a great option. I went with the cheaper one because I wanted to see what it was about. I don't have 'thousands of dollars of gear' and I probably never will, so what difference does it make what I buy with my money? seriously. I've seen a lot of elitist talk on this board and just gets kinda old.

It's not about "elitist", it's about who the money is going to and for what. If someone makes a similar product, but using their own tech/design/research/m​arketing/etc, that's one thing. But products like the Q here are trying to pirate off of a known brand by copying their logo closely enough that many people that don't know better will buy thinking they're getting an original product, as well as using terms for their stuff that are registered to the original; in this case, ConnectR and FastenR, which belong to BlackRapid. They are not generic terms for these pieces and should not be used to market as such.

No different than someone trying to sell you a Cannon 85mmL 1.8 lens on Ebay. Sure, they may be offering you a "L" lens at a huge discount; and maybe you'll actually get it....but then you find that it's no where near as good as you thought, and you either decide that there's no way in hell you're ever going to buy another L lens, or you decide to call Canon for support. Only to find out that you bought a cheap, pirated knock-off. Now you're out the money, Canon's had to spend rep time and money to support a call on something that isn't even theirs and no one's happy.

Spider, LumaLoop, BR, CottonCarrier, and a whole HOST of other strap/carrier makers are out there that supply good, quality gear with their own designs, offer direct customer support and stand behind their product.

The ask is just that people not support pirates and other shady dealers that can't come up with their own innovations on a similar product, and rely, instead, on misdirection and people not paying attention to what they're actually buying.


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Feb 10, 2011 18:45 |  #19

saw a comparison, black rapid vs carry speed.

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=TfIPKidgDXg (external link) nots ure if this is 100% unbiased tho


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Feb 10, 2011 19:11 |  #20

So you're saying just spend the money whether I like something or not?

All of us (Black Rapid and Luma) offer 30 day returns. I don't know how our friends up north run their kitchen, but for us, we fully expect you to use the hell out of your Loop during that time. As long as you don't return it utterly trashed, I am far happier giving you a refund than having a customer who isn't absolutely ecstatic about owning our product - and I say that with no malice or sarcasm implied. Slings aren't for everyone and I think we all (manufacturers) understand that.


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Feb 11, 2011 01:40 |  #21

K&K_Dad wrote in post #11818268 (external link)
So you're saying just spend the money whether I like something or not? If I want to examine the concept there's nothing wrong with going with one of these knockoffs. If I don't like it, I'm not out much. Chances are if I really like it I'll go with one of the better ones(Black rapid, sun sniper, luma) whatever. There's not always a resale market where someone lives so buying one and then being stuck with it isn't always a great option. I went with the cheaper one because I wanted to see what it was about. I don't have 'thousands of dollars of gear' and I probably never will, so what difference does it make what I buy with my money? seriously. I've seen a lot of elitist talk on this board and just gets kinda old.

You went with the cheaper one because it was cheaper. Stop pretending you had some deeper, more noble cause.

To hell with innovation, research and the sweat of design.

You're the one being elitist, like you're smarter than everyone else because you got some knock-off fascimile for a fraction of the cost. You're not savvy, you're just cheap.


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Feb 11, 2011 02:09 |  #22

Indecent Exposure wrote in post #11820704 (external link)
You went with the cheaper one because it was cheaper. Stop pretending you had some deeper, more noble cause.

To hell with innovation, research and the sweat of design.

You're the one being elitist, like you're smarter than everyone else because you got some knock-off fascimile for a fraction of the cost. You're not savvy, you're just cheap.

Lmfao.


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Feb 11, 2011 02:48 |  #23

yjt wrote in post #11818578 (external link)
saw a comparison, black rapid vs carry speed.

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=TfIPKidgDXg (external link) nots ure if this is 100% unbiased tho

This is hilarious. When the reviewer said CS-1 feels faster than his BR, I stopped watching immediate.

I got myself a Q strap while I was in HK. I already had a BR at that time, I only get one to see how a $25 Q strap compared to $60 BR. I must say with the recent BR improved webbing, BR is the higher quality stuff everywhere. One thing I keep wanting to point out is that the connecting plate CS or Q keep advertising for its tripod compatibility is actually useless if you are using tripod plate. You still need to take off the connecting plate if you want your tripod plate stay steady on the camera. I think the real tripod compatible method is the Luma method


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Feb 11, 2011 07:39 |  #24

Photogs are funny. People will buy a cheap knock off that rips off a company all day long. However, watch that same person with a client. They will display their creativity and style in their images. Now watch some cragislist photographer come in and underbid them or rip off one of their shots. Now see who's complaining...


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Feb 11, 2011 19:17 |  #25

Indecent Exposure wrote in post #11820704 (external link)
You went with the cheaper one because it was cheaper. Stop pretending you had some deeper, more noble cause.

To hell with innovation, research and the sweat of design.

You're the one being elitist, like you're smarter than everyone else because you got some knock-off fascimile for a fraction of the cost. You're not savvy, you're just cheap.

This is exactly what I meant by elitist. If I wanted to be cheap I could have bought some 1" webbing and a couple of carabiners. I never said I was smarter than anyone. Would I be a better person if I spent more money, more noble, less elite? seriously. 'You're not savvy, you're just cheap.' Come on, who really says this unless you think that what you're buying is better than what someone else is buying. I'll never be able to afford L glass, but everyone talks about how great it is. Hell I'll probably never own anything outside of what I have. I couldn't justify anything above the body that I got. I had to fight for that. Cheap, If i wanted a DSLR I could have bought a canon alpha and saved a few bucks. Taking a look at your gear list it probably makes you feel a few inches taller knowing you talked down to someone like me. Congratulations.


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Feb 11, 2011 19:26 |  #26

K&K_Dad wrote in post #11825357 (external link)
This is exactly what I meant by elitist. If I wanted to be cheap I could have bought some 1" webbing and a couple of carabiners. I never said I was smarter than anyone. Would I be a better person if I spent more money, more noble, less elite? seriously. 'You're not savvy, you're just cheap.' Come on, who really says this unless you think that what you're buying is better than what someone else is buying. I'll never be able to afford L glass, but everyone talks about how great it is. Hell I'll probably never own anything outside of what I have. I couldn't justify anything above the body that I got. I had to fight for that. Cheap, If i wanted a DSLR I could have bought a canon alpha and saved a few bucks. Taking a look at your gear list it probably makes you feel a few inches taller knowing you talked down to someone like me. Congratulations.

You threw a camera and lens you probably cannot afford to replace onto a shoddy, cheap knock-off sling you saved $40 on. Regardless of your lack of conscience as a consumer, that's just not a good idea and it sure doesn't make you a "smart shopper."

It's your perogative, of course, just don't go selling yourself as anything but cheap. You haven't spent your money in any smart or elightened way, though I'm sure you think you have, you've spent it foolishly. And the way you carry on it seems to me spending money foolishly is the last thing you should be doing.

I'm more concerned about supporting these horrid Chinese companies that leach off the hard work of others who spend the time and take the risk to bring a quality product to market and then coming here and pretending you're some kind of hero with your pocketbook.


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Feb 11, 2011 19:33 |  #27

Indecent Exposure wrote in post #11825414 (external link)
You threw a camera and lens you probably cannot afford to replace onto a shoddy, cheap knock-off sling you saved $40 on. Regardless of your lack of conscience as a consumer, that's just not a good idea and it sure doesn't make you a "smart shopper."

It's your perogative, of course, just don't go selling yourself as anything but cheap. You haven't spent your money in any smart or elightened way, though I'm sure you think you have, you've spent it foolishly. And the way you carry on it seems to me spending money foolishly is the last thing you should be doing.

Once again, elitist. 'You threw a camera and lens you probably cannot afford to replace.' Excuse me? how do you know what I can and can not buy. Would I fit in if I bought a black rapid? hold on I'll go get one now so that I won't be ridiculed. If the strap turns out bad, big deal, I'm not out anything. I can buy a BR, a Luma, whatever, but don't knock someone because of what they buy. whether the idea was 'stolen' or borrowed or whatever. Are you going to pick on my because I don't own an ipod too? since everyone knows they created the mp3 player.


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Feb 11, 2011 19:41 as a reply to  @ K&K_Dad's post |  #28

EDIT: Nevermind. Play the game however you and your conscience see fit.


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Feb 11, 2011 19:47 |  #29

ok.. congrats you win. moving on.


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Feb 12, 2011 00:43 |  #30

I have the single Q strap as well as the double version for carrying two cameras and it's great. I use the double strap during weddings.

Build and materials is good and the plate is rock solid. I carry mostly my 5D bodies gripped with 24-70 F2.8 L and 70-200 f2.8 L IS with these straps.

I just couldn't justify the price of the R-Straps

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did anyone buy this?
seems like it's exactly like a BR with a plate on the bottom that's optional.

http://cgi.ebay.com …2c59a279d3#ht_1​932wt_1139 (external link)

according to that
Package Included:
1 x Camera Strap
1 x ConnectR-2
1 x FastenR-3

doesn't that mean it's basically a BR?




  
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