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Feb 02, 2011 07:02 |  #31

BTW, sorry for getting all humped up about the ECC issue. I'm really not in the business of telling people what to build and I'm normally very friendly.

It's just a sensitive topic since Intel has decided to screw people who want leightweight ECC systems and I had to go AMD (see above). I like choice, too :)


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Feb 02, 2011 20:28 |  #32

How'd we get onto the subject of ECC vs. non-ECC memory anyhow? LOL....


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Feb 03, 2011 01:07 |  #33

BeritOlam wrote in post #11766452 (external link)
How'd we get onto the subject of ECC vs. non-ECC memory anyhow? LOL....

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Feb 04, 2011 14:17 |  #34

BeritOlam wrote in post #11766452 (external link)
How'd we get onto the subject of ECC vs. non-ECC memory anyhow? LOL....

A budget of $2000 for a non-gaming machine allows you to put in ECC and IMHO you should. It's not enough money to go SMP (and stay high clocked) and $2000 allow you to buy the fastest or almost-fastest single socket CPU easily.

So you'd add lots of RAM. Lots of bits to flip.

i clearly marked it as my opinion. The original question is "what would you do with 2k?". That's what I would do.


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Feb 04, 2011 14:54 |  #35

There is a case for ECC memory but having used computers daily since the mid 80's and currently working for a very large financial services company with thousands of PC's world wide.... I've never had a system on my desk that uses ECC and, quite frankly, find it unnecessary but I do respect differing opinions.


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Feb 04, 2011 15:36 |  #36

uOpt wrote in post #11777191 (external link)
A budget of $2000 for a non-gaming machine allows you to put in ECC and IMHO you should. It's not enough money to go SMP (and stay high clocked) and $2000 allow you to buy the fastest or almost-fastest single socket CPU easily.

So you'd add lots of RAM. Lots of bits to flip.

i clearly marked it as my opinion. The original question is "what would you do with 2k?". That's what I would do.

You sound a LOT like a server guy. There's good reasons not even medical businesses use ECC on their desktop machines.


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Feb 04, 2011 15:44 |  #37

bohdank wrote in post #11777401 (external link)
There is a case for ECC memory but having used computers daily since the mid 80's and currently working for a very large financial services company with thousands of PC's world wide.... I've never had a system on my desk that uses ECC and, quite frankly, find it unnecessary but I do respect differing opinions.

But not having ECC in the first place also means you never get an error count, since it fails both to correct and to report errors.

My logs from ECC equipped machines are pretty much never entirely empty after the box ran a couple years 24/7. And then sticks that actually break hard but gradually so over -say- a week are an entirely different problem.


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Feb 04, 2011 15:49 |  #38

Sp1207 wrote in post #11777701 (external link)
You sound a LOT like a server guy. There's good reasons not even medical businesses use ECC on their desktop machines.

Why would they have reliable PCs to make MS Word attachments saying "meeting at 3, bring donuts or you are the next test subject"?

The situation isn't comparable to somebody who writes masses of uncompressed high-res pictures to his disk. Not to mention might make an income out of them without having the luxury of an employer that has to pay even if incompetence prevented any useful output from the hours spent.

And remember, all of you run plenty ECC on the disk and on the caches within the CPU. Even your movie DVDs have CRC checksums. Everything does, *except* most people's RAM.


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Feb 12, 2011 01:14 |  #39

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What would you do with 2k budget?

spend 4500 LOL (sometimes Im not the best with restrictions)




  
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